Thanks!! In the US you volunteer on your license to be an organ donor. I did that 20 years ago even when it was frowned upon. My daughter chose to opt in as well. So we both have little hearts on our licenses indicating our choices to be donors. :) What is interesting is that my siblings have been out for way longer than I have and they can't bring themselves to support my daughter 's decision although they all hang blood for others as part of their jobs, lived with their spouses before marriage and celebrate holidays. On some level the religion is still "the truth" to them. Sadly giving blood is still taboo in their eyes.
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My daughter gave blood today!!
by joyfulfader ini am a proud mother.
my daughter's school had a blood drive and she is of age to donate.
she wanted to last year but was too young.
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My daughter gave blood today!!
by joyfulfader ini am a proud mother.
my daughter's school had a blood drive and she is of age to donate.
she wanted to last year but was too young.
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I am a proud mother. My daughter's school had a blood drive and she is of age to donate. She wanted to last year but was too young. Her pint of blood will be enough to help up to 3 lives. We are doing one together in November! She was nervous and even passed out but can't wait to do it again. I can't stop smiling about it :) She posted it on instagram and even some of her old JW friends liked her post. Did I mention I am proud of her???
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PART DEUX: AN ALTERNATIVE CONVERSATION WITH A NEIGHBOR - Watchtower, November 2014
by AnnOMaly inthe second contrived and unrealistic conversation that one of jehovahs witnesses imagined having with a neighbor in the november 2014 watchtower will not be reproduced here.
instead let us imagine the other witness named andre (sorry, i meant) cameron has returned to the home of the other man also named jon.. nebuchadnezzars dream a tortuous recapcameron: hi there, neighbor!.
jon: whoa!
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I like it
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Evolution and spirits
by Chris Tann inas of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.
however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.
i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.
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Who's to say "spirits" aren't something puny humans can't explain in their limited grasp of science and the universe? For those who state that the only people they know who have had encounters have at one time been in a mental institute should perhaps be less judgemental. I am agnostic, believe in evolution and believe in the unexplainable (realizing many things can actually be explained to be things other than "spirits"). I like that I have freedom to believe as I choose now. I don't know what some of the things are that happen...it's why I refer to them as unexplainable but not impossible. Limited knowledge leads to the perpetuation of ignorance. Humans have barely scratched the surface of science. i prefer not to limit my idea of what is possible and what is not possible based merely on what science thinks it knows now about the properties of the universe.
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The ignorance of the "sheep"...and will door to door work phaze out due to being "challenged" too much at the door?
by integ inhello friends.. i notice alot of talk about the future and what it would take to bring the whole thing down and no one seems to think it can or will happen any time soon.
just seeing people here talk about what will happen once 2034 comes and goes is very discouraging.. i'm amazed this religion continues to move along as it does.
building, growing etc.
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2 pioneers came to my door several weeks ago now. I am in a new town so I could be anonymous. It was awesome to ask the questions I knew they had no answers for. I am not df'd or anything...I just disappeared. I became the worldly family member who has the questions a baptized witness can never ask. They were handing out the JW.org tracts and did not expect me to decline and then challenge them on blood and where the fractions they use come from as well as their no donate policy. I could talk about only jw's surviving Armageddon...after all, my pretend family keeps telling me I'm going to die at the big A for not being a baptized witness (my real family gave up on that threat). The UN scandal(which of course was impossible)...all brought up. 30 min of them thinking "why us????". Not because I was rude or disrespectful in any way but because they don't get to talk to people much anymore. I kept apologizing and saying that I understand that their faith is important to them but it's not my path to take. They just had no idea how to engage with real answers. They merely dodged questions, denied or lied. Of course not only jw's will be saved...The discussion on blood was completely ridiculous. Unbelievably.
They kept saying I sounded truly sincere and I was...sad none of us could have those sincere questions as witnesses.
They are not prepared for real discussion anymore. Tracts and tablets. That's it. I hope I sparked a little something. Funny, they haven't been back. I am prepared though ;)
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JW's and Death
by William Penwell ini am sure this has been discussed before.
this is kind of a continuation on of my previous post.
we have just recently lost a close family member.
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Death is a touchy subject for me. Coming to terms with my own mortality and that of my parents has been a hard pill to swallow. I only thought about death superficially. Now the permanence feels all too real. I don't know what is going to happen at death. I have no faith in an afterlife of any sort so I have begun to live life with happiness now as my goal.
i grew up around a family whose daughter had a chronic genetic illness that required a lung transplant that they decided not to have done. She was 16 and in the hospital on her deathbed surrounded by family. She said she was going to close her eyes and wake up in the paradise. Her dad told me that she opened one eye a little later and said "I'm not there yet, am I?" That made everyone laugh a bit and they had a few more hours with her and then she was gone for real. Maybe her faith was what kept her spirits up. I don't know. I can't say where she is but I feel in my heart that I had better make the best of my life now because I have found no basis to believe otherwise.
To me the God of the bible is mean and hateful. Do I even want an afterlife from a totalitarian dictator prone to tantrums and ridiculous demands of obedience? Nope.
Death is bad. Period.
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Door To Door: Meet The Father Daughter Team Of Jehovah's Witnesses
by Bangalore indoor to door: meet the father daughter team of jehovah's witnesses.. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ismt6inuklg.
bangalore.
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Little kids enjoying field service...I don't think so. I remember how grateful many were with the addition of the DVD player to the minivans always used in service to keep the kids from screaming because they had to go to a door!! The parents that deemed that strategy as inappropriate used bribery. I was extremely good at the door to door thing but hated it.
I think it's interesting that the interviewer asked if she thought she was brainwashed. At least she didn't give that speech posted on another thread about her brain being cleansed of all that is bad. I used to have the same rebuttal as she and believed I had researched...sadly it will take an eye opening personal trauma to open her eyes to reality. Even then, maybe not...
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No more SHARED Territory only PERSONAL Territory
by OwnAccord inthis person is in turkey and maybe the reason for the chage?.
we have our circuit visit next week.
it has been said that each publisher should request for a personal territory so after next week we will not be meeting in the territory anymore.. the details for the switch are getting clearer.
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This is not new. I have been out completely for 3 years and inactive for almost 4. Before that I was pioneering with a personal territory. The CO encouraged it. I kept the same one for 2 years. I knew who lived where and who to avoid. My vehicle was known by everyone. I really could keep track of everything AND it enabled me to tell the elders where to go...after all...it was MY territory and I knew it and they didn't lol
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bull poop
by snare&racket inglad to see the forum is going strong, lots of new names and stories......and it has only been a couple of months!.
the wt really has no chance in such a world of free and accessible information.
keep fighting guys, the freedom once you are loose of the governing body is awesome, you will be amazed how long you ignored the stench off bullshit as your ability to smell it returns.. and on that note ;) x. .
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I love that you are now a doc! I am a nurse and finally back in school to finish my BSN and then i plan to get my Masters in Forensics. It feels good to actually have a say in my own life. Congrats on making it!!!!!
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What would make them leave?
by Separation of Powers inin your experience, what would the org have to do that would cause the most people to leave?.
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I don't think there is anything that would do it. Maybe a bizarre call for mass suicide. Other than something that crazy, the gb is good at making the nonthinking average jw believe all the changes are what they always believed...just "clarified". Any scandal would be disregarded as Satan attacking God's chosen people (a "fulfillment" of prophecy) and may cause some to dig in even deeper.