Posts by Pubsinger

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I think Im being shunned

by purplesofa in

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there is a jw that works where i do at the hospitol.. she brought a patient to my desk and looked right through me.......spoke to the woman next to me and went on.. well, i thought she might not have recognized who i was (these new glasses).

today i was approaching her in the hall and she saw me and looked the other way.........i waved at her and said heeeay!

and smiled real big.....as i was passing her.

Pubsinger

return the compliment and talk/look through her.

Pointedly.

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My Story (in detail)

by KW13 in

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its sometimes hard for us ex-dubs to share our stories and even harder for those who can't leave the organization and need to vent.

i would encourage all those with a story to tell to do so, i'd really enjoy reading it as i do already read the stories you all shared.. i grew up without my dad and almost without my mum since she was always out drinking or doing something else.

we've been homeless and without money, for years no one in the family had a telephone and my dad offered the sum total of 1.50 a week in child support before running away to american for a few years, abandoning his responsibilities (which he successfully evaded right up to me being too old to need or want his help).

Pubsinger

Wow. Amazing story.

Are you really just 18?

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I need HELP and INPUT!!!!!

by webmustang in

i need to know something and i need help finding out the truth:.

if i retired from military as pharmacist, before becoming a witness and receive pension every month + benefits, is it contradictory with witnesses not being part of military?.

should i give up my pension to be in tune and harmony with our beliefs?.

Pubsinger

fair enough.

but let him start again with some manners.

in another thread.

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I need HELP and INPUT!!!!!

by webmustang in

i need to know something and i need help finding out the truth:.

if i retired from military as pharmacist, before becoming a witness and receive pension every month + benefits, is it contradictory with witnesses not being part of military?.

should i give up my pension to be in tune and harmony with our beliefs?.

Pubsinger

Troll.

lets shut down his thread.

bye.

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I need HELP and INPUT!!!!!

by webmustang in

i need to know something and i need help finding out the truth:.

if i retired from military as pharmacist, before becoming a witness and receive pension every month + benefits, is it contradictory with witnesses not being part of military?.

should i give up my pension to be in tune and harmony with our beliefs?.

Pubsinger

Aquagirl

Thanks. Thought it was just me

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I need HELP and INPUT!!!!!

by webmustang in

i need to know something and i need help finding out the truth:.

if i retired from military as pharmacist, before becoming a witness and receive pension every month + benefits, is it contradictory with witnesses not being part of military?.

should i give up my pension to be in tune and harmony with our beliefs?.

Pubsinger

Welcome to the Board. I am a former Elder and worked 10 years at Bethel Headquarters. I now realize that the Wactchtower does not represent the truth. If you got questions PM me.
DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR PENSIONS!!! DO NOT CONTRIBUTE $$$ TO THE WT.
http://www.amazon.com/Combatting-Cult-Mind-Control-Best-selling/dp/0892813113

Please, do not try to combat my Faith, I am NOT brainwashed, I am not under some spell or what not and if I am, well I really LOVE it, so do not trash this thread with self promotion, thank U :)

Charming! A newbie who's an active JW, comes to an openly "apostate" site ASKING FOR HELP, and is snotty to the first poster who offers them decent advice. Can anyone picture a role reversal where an ex JW turns up on a JW forum asking for advice? what a joker. Go ask an elder.

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"A Tremendous Teaching Tool!"

by under_believer in

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the above is the title of the "article" on the back of the april 2007 awake!

magazine.

what follows is the body of the "article.

Pubsinger

When did they every publish an unfavorable critique!

Can you imagine - I much prefered the 'Live Forever Book', it was so much more attractive than the "Knowledge" book.

Editors Note: Thank you brother for that honest appraisal of our new book. We'll be sure to bear you're constructive comments in mind. Here at Brooklyn Bethel we WELCOME your viewpoints. Thank you - your humble servants, The Writing Committee.

NOT.

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Christians could and did. Can JWs? Do they?

by ANewLeif in

there are many things the bible says christians could do and things the bible describes christians doing that, according to their doctrine, jws can't do.. christians could talk directly to jesus.

(acts 7:54-60; acts 9:3-16) can you?

christians could decide for themselves which days they chose to observe without any fear of religious retribution.

Pubsinger

My contention is that the doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses disallows JWs from being Christian;

My contention is that Jesus doesn't give a monkeys about "JW Doctrine"

Jesus decides what disallows you from being a Christian.

As he can see what each individual actually believes regardless of "official" beliefs and who is worshipping in spirit and truth, I believe that many are acceted by Christ.

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Christians could and did. Can JWs? Do they?

by ANewLeif in

there are many things the bible says christians could do and things the bible describes christians doing that, according to their doctrine, jws can't do.. christians could talk directly to jesus.

(acts 7:54-60; acts 9:3-16) can you?

christians could decide for themselves which days they chose to observe without any fear of religious retribution.

Pubsinger

I think Gamaliel was one!!!!

By secret I mean that they don't understand the nuances of their own dogma/doctrine.

I guarantee that if you walk up to any JW in the street and ask "who is your mediator?" 99% will answer "Jesus" Less than 1% understand that according to official WT interpretation Jesus is only mediator to the 144000.

I only found out after I left!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So if you take that as a reflection of what they actually believe then you can see why i feel that they can be Christians.

Interestingly if you ask any JW who they believe is their saviour they will again unflinchingly answer "Jesus" . If you ask them why they will say "because he died for me". If you ask them what they have to do to avail themselves of that sacrifice they will say "exercise faith in Jesus' ransom sacrifice"

Now we know that the WT adds lots of riders to those answers, but based on individual beliefs and answers to the preceding questions I would venture that a vast amount of JWs are Christians and saved, but are caught in WT rules which govern the way they act.

I believe that Jesus sees straight through all of this and his grace covers their actions and errors

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Christians could and did. Can JWs? Do they?

by ANewLeif in

there are many things the bible says christians could do and things the bible describes christians doing that, according to their doctrine, jws can't do.. christians could talk directly to jesus.

(acts 7:54-60; acts 9:3-16) can you?

christians could decide for themselves which days they chose to observe without any fear of religious retribution.

Pubsinger

I don't believe any JW believes that Jesus is NOT their mediator despite what the WT says. Secretly they believe that he is.

Actually as 90%+ of JWs are unaware of this official teaching and hence don't know what they are supposed to believe; I submit that most of them actually are not JWs although are enslaved by it's rules as opposed to it's doctrine