Posts by Pubsinger

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The Bible - God's Word or Man's? - What Convinces You?

by sweet pea in

having believed the whole bible, hook, line and sinker all these years i get the impression many of you have come to the conclusion that we should take it with a pinch of salt and not hold to it so dogmatically.

and some possibly believe in it just as much as you did when you were a witness.

to save me some time please, lovely people, as i am very lazy - could you share with me why you do or don't believe in it - what evidence there is either way and if there are any particular books that you found helpful in coming to your conclusions?

Pubsinger

Classic "answer a different question" coming up LOL

I believe God speaks in different ways at different times.

I believe that there can be some benefit in a "word for a different time"

I believe that when Jesus instigated the "New Covenant" lots of things changed - including God's principle means of communication.

I believe that it is possible to "connect" with God

I don't rule out God "connecting" with/through other faiths.

I believe that it would be possible to connect with God and never come across a Bible.

Therefore I don't base my faith on scripture alone/totally.

My experience of connection definitely weights my views.

My relationships are no longer dependant on shared belief.

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People You Wouldn't Mind See Going

by minimus in

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friends

certain people are in positions that can affect us.

certain family members or jws can make our lives miserable.. some politicians, we would be happy to see them or at least their terms expire.. certain sports figures, religious leaders, actors, and other types cold be on our "wish list" to get out of our brains.. can you think of anyone that you wouldn't mind ever hearing about again??

?.

Pubsinger

Pete Doherty and Amy Winehouse.

Puurrrleeese.

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A New Kitten . . . (Katie Kitten)

by Pubsinger in

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friends

i feel quite giddy making this announcement!.

katie kitten (louise) text me last night at 11.30pm to tell me to tell you all she's had a litter of one.

a little boy, josef jack, 8lb 14oz, born 5.55am on nov 15th.. she apparently had a long and somewhat rough time of it and is gonna be in hospital a day or two.. i'll be the first to say congratulations.

Pubsinger

I feel quite giddy making this announcement!

Katie Kitten (Louise) text me last night at 11.30pm to tell me to tell you all she's had a litter of one

A little boy, Josef Jack, 8lb 14oz, born 5.55am on Nov 15th.

She apparently had a long and somewhat rough time of it and is gonna be in hospital a day or two.

I'll be the first to say congratulations

Pub (feeling like a proud Dad)

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UK Independent Blood Article - 12% JW willing to accept blood

by skeeter1 in

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article3149957.ece.

religion: another sacrifice paid in blood.

as sect's transfusion ban claims a mother's life, ex-member recalls her brush with deathby susie mesurepublished: 11 november 2007 for rachel underhill, a 32-year-old mother of two, the news that emma gough, a jehovah's witness, had died last month after refusing a potentially life-saving blood transfusion following the difficult birth of her twins, brought back memories of her own near-death experience in the operating theatre.

Pubsinger

I'm with BluesBrother on this one.

I liked the article when I read it at the weekend.

But that statement is as bad as any the WT puts in it's rag.

Evidently a study suggested that 12% of JWs would accept a blood transfusion . . . and 29% also liked cheesecake . . .

I wanna see the source . . .

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Gas Prices Are Supposed To Go Up 20 Cents In The Next 2 Weeks!!!

by minimus in

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friends

how will that personally affect you?

Pubsinger

YEAH!!!!

9 BUCKS A GALLON!!!!!!

SO STOP WINGEING

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Learning to Think in Shades of Gray and other Colors Too

by flipper in

jw
friends

it seems to be hard when getting out of the witnesses for many to realize that nobody really knows about many things in life.

good and evil, what happens when we die.

those leaving the witnesses may see it as a big loss in not knowing, and some more than others go through a whole grieving loss process with denial, bargaining, anger, etc.

Pubsinger

Yeah but it's a wide angle shot . . .

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Learning to Think in Shades of Gray and other Colors Too

by flipper in

jw
friends

it seems to be hard when getting out of the witnesses for many to realize that nobody really knows about many things in life.

good and evil, what happens when we die.

those leaving the witnesses may see it as a big loss in not knowing, and some more than others go through a whole grieving loss process with denial, bargaining, anger, etc.

Pubsinger

KK.

I can indeed.

And at sometime in the future I can turn around and say "You know, I think I was wrong" and change my mind.

But if I ever tell you that God's using me as His exclusive mouthpiece - hit me with a rolled up copy of the Spenborough Guardian . . .

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Learning to Think in Shades of Gray and other Colors Too

by flipper in

jw
friends

it seems to be hard when getting out of the witnesses for many to realize that nobody really knows about many things in life.

good and evil, what happens when we die.

those leaving the witnesses may see it as a big loss in not knowing, and some more than others go through a whole grieving loss process with denial, bargaining, anger, etc.

Pubsinger

I agree totally with this.

I think that this is equally applicable to those who would call themselves Christians or believers (like myself)

I have my beliefs. My experiences and observations lead me to many shadesof gray and lots of colours.

Some say "You can't believe that if you're a Christian"

Seemingly I can

Best thing that ever happened to me!

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Anyone watched the film 'Sicko'?

by katiekitten in

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friends

i watched this film last night, and it made me really really grateful that we have free health care in the uk.

i know we complain about the state of the nhs, but the bottom line is if there is ever anything wrong with me my first thought will not be 'does my insurance cover this' or 'can i afford this'.. there was one part of the film where michael moore takes some people to cuba to get free health care and one woman picks up inhalers for 5 cents a piece, that are costing her $120 in the us.

she just breaks down and crys at the disparity of the cost.. it was also telling to see the insurance companies employ people specifically to try and find ways to deny claims or to void policies where a claim has been made.

Pubsinger

No.

But I was just looking to see if I'd missed a "baby" thread and when I went back to active topics - there you were!!

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When did the WT stop teaching the idea of a rapture?

by cabasilas in

reading old stuff from russell's day, you can see the bible students were expecting they'd all be raptured in 1878 and many were hoping for it in 1881. also, 1914 and 1918 were other times they were expecting it.

when did they stop believing that the anointed would be translated to heaven?

i'm assuming it was during rutherford's presidency, but wonder if anyone knows when that belief was changed?

Pubsinger

I'd assume that they still teach the rapture although they only apply it to "The Remnant"

I'm sure they teach that some of the 144000 will survive Armageddon so that'll require a "rapture" then

BUT - they change stuff so often I may be hopelessly out of date!!