Gregor.
Have we met?
her personal diarys and letters have revealed she doubted gods reality and this in turn caused her to ask herself "is jesus true?
" she no longer prayed right up until her death.
in my opinion this in no way detracts from her being a wonderful, self sacrificing woman.
Gregor.
Have we met?
you: you know, the one in england who pleaded gulty to 25 counts of indecent assault and gross indecency... the youngest victim was 18 months old.... dub: how terrible!.
you: the tragic thing is, the judge didn't send him to jail, but only gave him a community rehabilitation order.
and the church won't even take disciplinary action against him... he's still in a position to abuse more victims.. dub: end times... corrupt judges blabla .. false religion... whore of babylon yadda yadda.
I've always had a naughty streak in me but you were just to busy trying to be a good little girl you didn't notice
Strangely enough you're right about Sunday lunch . . .
her personal diarys and letters have revealed she doubted gods reality and this in turn caused her to ask herself "is jesus true?
" she no longer prayed right up until her death.
in my opinion this in no way detracts from her being a wonderful, self sacrificing woman.
If only more people of so-called "Faith" would publicly make us aware of the true nature of their intelligent awareness of the "nothing" at the center of their belief it would enable us to view them as honest rather than lazy wankers hitching a free ride on God's nickel.
I am absolutely certain that if I continually posted this level of abuse against this guy and others who share his viewpoint I would have been banned by now.
How long do we have to put up with this.
He can state his view without being this offensive.
Moderators please . . .
you: you know, the one in england who pleaded gulty to 25 counts of indecent assault and gross indecency... the youngest victim was 18 months old.... dub: how terrible!.
you: the tragic thing is, the judge didn't send him to jail, but only gave him a community rehabilitation order.
and the church won't even take disciplinary action against him... he's still in a position to abuse more victims.. dub: end times... corrupt judges blabla .. false religion... whore of babylon yadda yadda.
I did a similar thing with both my Brothers- in - law with pyramids and books dictated by automatic writing (Angels and Women) and Egyptian winged serpents on book covers and aluminium pans etc . . .
And after they'd agreed 100% that these things would DEFINITELY NOT come from an organisation directed by God I said . . .
Oh did I say some wacky religious group? . . . actually it was the WT
. . . . . . silence . . . . . shit we fell for that . . . . . . .never mind we ARE spirit appointed men . . . . . . .did we say DEFINITELY NOT . . . . . . .we meant well the light DOES get brighter . . . . .
my mum showed me this e-mail her jw friend had sent her last week.. in it the friend explained how wonderful the magazines are and how they provide food at the proper time because they had recently had an article in about ' being prepared for the unexpected'.
the article had told them to have a bag packed with emergency stuff in case they ever needed to leave the house in a hurry.
so they were told to pack dried food, a wallet with important documents in, waterproof clothing etc.. now this, it seems, was pretty relevant because i live in gloucester where were had terrible floods a few weeks ago, and some peoples houses were flooded out, the entire city had its water cut off for a fortnight because the pumping station flooded, and most work places were unable to allow staff in because they were not able to provide flushing toilets or running water.. so my mims friend was totally blown away by how jehovah is so clever - although having dried food and your passport in a waterproof wallet did nothing to help you flush the toilet for a fortnight.. but - now heres to point of this long and rambling story - i suddenly got super angry about this article and its survivialist mentalilty.
Hi Katie
Is your mum still a JW?
Did you get to Iceland (everyone else just talk amongst yourselves!)
has anyone else heard this?
(apologies if this has already been discussed).
my inactive mum has an active jw friend with an elder husband.
Hiya!
It's true . . .you should come here more often
S
manchester city 1, manchester utd 0. oh, yeah!
barclays premier league table.
19 august 2007 15:24. pgdpts1man city3492wigan3363chelsea2264everton3265portsmouth3256newcastle2247reading3048sunderland3-249tottenham31310arsenal11311blackburn11312liverpool11313fulham3-1314middlesbrough3-1315west ham2-1316man utd3-1217aston villa2-1118birmingham3-2119derby3-5120bolton3-50
yeah looks like they will have to settle for the champions league now.
You know Tij most Utd fans view this as a genuine cup competition with loads of genuine competition and not a "must win competition"
Most would prefer the Premiership any day of the week!
The winners are often not the best (as in most consistent) team in Europe or even in their own country, but it's all about "on the day" performances.
I can't see how any team can "concentrate on the Champions league cos it can be all over in 90 mins due to a bad performance or a inopportune series of injuries or suspensions.
manchester city 1, manchester utd 0. oh, yeah!
barclays premier league table.
19 august 2007 15:24. pgdpts1man city3492wigan3363chelsea2264everton3265portsmouth3256newcastle2247reading3048sunderland3-249tottenham31310arsenal11311blackburn11312liverpool11313fulham3-1314middlesbrough3-1315west ham2-1316man utd3-1217aston villa2-1118birmingham3-2119derby3-5120bolton3-50
As a fanatical Red, the most annoying thing about this "Worst start since '92" is that Utd have battered all three teams they've played so far and only got 2 pts and 1 goal.
Van Nistelroy would have scored 6 by now
i'll start.. i love the jerky boys and "prank" candid camera/punked types of humor.. i also love r&b, soul, funk and disco.. now what can you tell us about yourself that we might've never guessed?.
I can do the rubix cube.
Usually in about a minute and a half.
before god began creating.......he wasn't a creator.. before god began creating.....there was nothing......and therefore nothing to know.. before god began creating...there was nothing and nothing to know....and therefore nothing to love.. before god began creating...he was alone with nothing to distinguish him from nothingness except--what?
his mind?
filled with what, actually?.
This would be one reason why some choose to beleive that the minimum number of persons needed to make a godhead would be three. It would take one to give, one to receive and one to observe and objectify so that the statement could be made "God is love". Again I'm applying the term "God" to refer to the substance rather than the individual person[s].
Little Toe understands perfectly.
So do I.
I am making a very clear distinction between "God/Creator" as a desciption of an Eternal Being's title/role/actions and "God" as the nature/substance of the Eternal being.
2.The religious definitions of God are quite specific. (Eternal, All-Powerful, Omniscient, Creator, etc.)
You said you didn't want to have a discussion which was umbilically linked to a book of fairy tales (or words to that effect)
6.I took the definitions about God and placed them in a very specific context: pre-creation and asked how God could match those definitions JUST BEFORE He began creating.
No you didn't. You said that Eternity before creation proves the non-existence of God.
Were you actually saying that eternity before creation proves that God hasn't always been a "Creator"? IF SO I'D AGREE
That is an extraordinarily lucid and specific set of circumstances. My conclusion was that God ceases to be describable as God if He has not yet created anything. Then, I offered for consideration the idea that a pre-creation God wasn't God at all. Consequently, the God we all (think we) know could not exist pre-creation.
So you are saying that he didn't exist as in "void - never there" or didn't exist in the form/role of God/creator but exists as a being?
To be "God" requires an observer who is NOT God. Otherwise, God is just merely an "only" and not comparatively greater than someone/something else.
Wait wait . . . it's becoming clearer . . .
You ARE saying he WOULD exist as an "only"
THAT'S WHAT OTHERS HERE ARE SAYING.
Sorry thought you were saying he COULDN'T (in the realms of possibility) exist as a being.
ONE LAST THING.
In my first post I said that I didn't know you.
I DO NOW. YOU ARE OBNOXIOUS. FOR PROOF SEE THE END OF THIS POST.
STILL IT HAS TRULY BEEN AN ENLIGHTENING EXPERIENCE. I NOW SEE THE LIGHT THROUGH YOUR WORDS OF WISDOM
AND I WILL NOT ENGAGE WITH ANYONE WHO POSTS THE BELOW
I feel like a dance instructor with a quadraplegic class.