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Crap trying to reason with a Mormon He is asking about the Sabath

by Found Sheep in

nice guy i worked with him for about a year.

he is mormon but every time we were in a place to talk he brought up religion, cult thinking.... he needs to come clean i think.... ripe for the vine of non cult thinking but not an ex-jw so i don't have the upper hand?

is there a coc for mormons?

leaving_quietly

Oooh, oooh, I know... there was JUST a talk on the School about this.

Adam did not observe the Sabbath

And Jesus was the end of the law and made it obsolete, including the Sabbath

So, no Sabbath required

The end.

Seriously, though... if he really wants to know, ask him to look at the ORIGINAL commands for the Sabbath and what it was to be for. I WISH we had a sabbath today since it was to be a day of "complete rest". Many religions make it out to be a day of worship, but that wasn't what God had commanded. I just did a word study on this, and I'm not done with it. By "word study", I mean that I searched for every occurrence of "sabbath" in the Bible and have all the verses in a document. I'm reading through it. This gives the sense of what is behind a certain word. For "sabbath", thus far, I can only gather that it was meant to be no working, resting, giving animals a much needed break. There wasn't any sense of going to worship on that day. The Israelites weren't even permitted to light a fire in their homes that day. The point was to rest.

Don't know if this helps at all.

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LIVE WEB CAM

by The Searcher in

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an excellent live webcam in the highlands of scotland, monitoring a breeding pair of ospreys - beautiful birds of prey!.

one chick already hatched, with two more eggs being cared for.. http://www.rspb.org.uk/reserves/guide/l/lochgarten/abernethyvideo.aspx.

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LOL!

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JWs in a frenzy!

by leaving_quietly in

anyone else get the distinct impression that jws are being worked up into a frenzy with all the changes and activity nowadays?

by the end of august, there will have been four campaigns inside of a year.

one last november, a memorial campaign, a convention campaign and an advertise jw.org campaign.. then there's the conventions with all the hooplah around that with all the video, and the aggrandizement of synchronized gb talks.

leaving_quietly

Anyone else get the distinct impression that JWs are being worked up into a frenzy with all the changes and activity nowadays? By the end of August, there will have been FOUR campaigns inside of a year. One last November, a Memorial campaign, a convention campaign and an advertise JW.org campaign.

Then there's the conventions with all the hooplah around that with all the video, and the aggrandizement of synchronized GB talks.

Then the new KH fund arrangement, which most JWs see as a good thing.

Then there's the constantly updated content on jw.org, including videos for little kids.

Then there's the comment about being ready to obey strange instructions.

The list can go on and on.

I feel like I'm the only person who sees this for all hype and frenzy over nothing. Am I alone in this? Why can't JWs see this for what it is? I was a little tyke in the 1975 era, so I don't know what it was like then, but I suspect it was pretty similar to what it is now.

Jesus said, "Keep on the watch." He didn't tell his followers to go nutty about it.

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Don't You Think It's Odd That "Jehovah" Was Invented By A Catholic Monk?...

by minimus in

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and that jehovah's witnesses are proud to use that name?.

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Their argument is "Jehovah is the mostly commonly recognized English translation; No one gives us flack for using "Jesus" instead of "Yehoshuah", so why give us flack for using "Jehovah" instead of "Yahweh"?

I think it is a reasonable argument. Names are translated just as any other word is.

The simple reason for giving flack is because they make such a BIG DEAL about RESTORING God's name in the Bible, even going so far as to insert it into the Greek scriptures where THEY THINK it's supposed to be. If they are going to restore God's name, then RESTORE GOD'S NAME!!! Don't give it a half-baked effort!!!!

Edited to add: Those who cry out the loudest will get the most attention. JWs are the ones bringing this upon themselves because they cry out the loudest that they, and only they, have the truth, and that they, and only they, use God's name, and that they, and only they, BEAR God's name. Just saying... the flack is well-deserved.

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What happened to...

by confusedandalone in

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marvin shilmer.

leaving_quietly

Hmm. Hopefully nothing bad happened to him. His blog hasn't been updated in quite awhile, either. http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/

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Keep Seeking First God's Kingdom - RC 2014 - Sunday

by OwnAccord in

a world without satan (revelation 20:2,3,7,10).

romans 12- joy in the kingdom hope.

the spirit.. demonstration: family worship.

leaving_quietly

It would be more accurately be called "The Shared Rulership With Christ During Satan's Thousand Year Abyssing".

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Keep Seeking First God's Kingdom - RC 2014 - Sunday

by OwnAccord in

a world without satan (revelation 20:2,3,7,10).

romans 12- joy in the kingdom hope.

the spirit.. demonstration: family worship.

leaving_quietly

New instructions in the new world will have to be embraced by all for survival

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Today we are being trained to obey new instructions.

Ahhhh, I see how it is. Start obeying now, folks, cause they have already started ruling! They're making up new instructions now, and not waiting on Jehovah. That's the way it sounds to me. Tell me if I'm reading it wrong.

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WT Study article 05/18/2014

by piztjw in

i just started reviewing this "lesson".

i found this in paragraph 5, and am pondering making/attempting to make a comment on it that may cause someone to think.. par.

5 states this, ""the faith" is the body of christian beliefs revealed in the bible.

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Yes, this is a problem. The first century Christians DID NOT HAVE A BIBLE!!!

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Interesting article!

by FL_Panthers in

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/entire-family-five-struck-lightning-3554852.

leaving_quietly

Why in the world would the article call out the religion? Seriously, I think JWs make it a point to let other people know their religion. How else would the reporter have known. Really, what difference does it make if they were JWs or not?

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"Keep Seeking First God's Kingdom! Regional Convention 2014 - releases and info

by OwnAccord in

info from someone at the regional convention:.

(sorry about the format).

matthew 6:33 keep on seeking first the kingdom.

leaving_quietly

There must have been so many "WTF" moments yesterday.

The religious leaders of that time, very versed in the law there teaching became so unscriptural they became a burden to the people. (WTF??? How about teaching that men cannot wear beards? Or that we MUST go to ALL the meetings and only if we're SO SICK that we cannot attend is it acceptable to miss? Or that one CANNOT ask questions without being viewed as SPIRITUALLY WEAK, and possibly / probably SHUNNED? What about teaching that EVERY SINGLE HOLIDAY is a SIN, even when there is NO PROOF of such in modern times (think Mother's Day and Father's Day)? What about burdening children with being ostracized because of not being able to celebrate birthdays because the organization bans it for NO GOOD REASON?)

Matthew 23:2. Religious leaders of Jesus time compared to today. Hide Jehovah's name from the people. Take gods name out of many translations of the bible. (WTF??? Let's list all the translations that actually DO have God's name. What's with the fascination with this topic? Hey Watchtower, how about you use God's REAL name, not some name made up by a Catholic monk?)

Heavy loads on people. hellfire teaching. Not refreshing. Many people fed up with BTG. (WTF? Hellfire is a heavy load? How about 7.9 billion people dying at armageddon just because they don't believe JWs? How about heavy loads of constant meetings, field service, assemblies, conventions, and special events? Talk about HEAVY LOADS!!!!!)

Palms 115:17-dead don't praise Jehovah. Dead people most unhealthy people on earth. (WTF??? Who comes up with this stuff?)

Reading this is just making me angry. Ugh.

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