Anyone else notice the gold-edged, brown-covered large Bible Morris was using? I'm thinking it's the next Bible to be released, probably a reference Bible.
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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"Between the Lines" of the Branch Visit
by TTATTelder ini am starting this thread to discuss the financial points i picked up during the branch visit.. firstly - as an elder we were told that all donations from the event - local and worldwide work were to be sent to the branch.
first of all - could the money-grab be any more obvious given these instructions?
is it even legal to take funds a person gave to a non-profit for one specific purpose (pay the light bill) to allocate them for another (www slush fund)?
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leaving_quietly
Yeah, I thought the same thing about RTOs. Why in the world do they need to construct or renovate? There's so much commercial property out there that all they really need to do is lease small office space in various locations. Something fishy is going on with that.
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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All I could think when Morris was speaking was: Wow... hiding behind cherry-picked scriptures to prove a point. "It's not MY opinion." "Take it up with God."
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Are All Christians Appointed as a Watchman?
by Chris Tann inthis is a question i have been trying to answer.
at the branch visit yesterday, morris discussed eze.33,about ,how if we do not preach we are bloodguilty.
i would like very much people who are well informed on this topic to show me a thorough scriptual answer.
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leaving_quietly
I, too, have pondered this question for quite some time. I've come to the conclusion that the answer is no. Christ never gave any such command or commission. The closest anything comes in the NT is to invite others to repent and be baptized, but this is to fulfill the commission to make disciples and baptize them.
The next question is: are ALL Christians given this commission? This leads to a discussion of apostles and disciples. The word "apostles" means literally "sent forth ones". All apostles are also disciples, but not all disciples are also apostles. Thus, it's worth noting the commendation Christ gave to the congregation in Ephesus in Revelation 2:2:
‘I know your deeds, and your labor and endurance, and that you cannot tolerate bad men, and that you put to the test those who say they are apostles, but they are not, and you found them to be liars.
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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Ok, I've concluded that the whole thing was a huge money grab. Here's why:
At the local KHs, ALL donations were to go toward the Worldwide Work. ALL of them. Even any dropped in the Local Congregation slot.
And the only announcement that was made? You guessed it: Please make your checks out to "Jehovah's Witnesses" or to "Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses".
This was a BRILLIANT move to get a massive spike in donations. Nearly 10% of all JWs in a 3 hour time period.
Wow. Just . . . Wow.
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Governing Body Member Gerrit Loesch Must Eventually Take The Witness Stand In Child Molestation Lawsuits
by frankiespeakin inwith many more cases in the offing the zalkin lawfirm will press the issue again and again and force gerrit loesch to testify.
what say you?.
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I don't disagree. I don't buy that crap. This reminds me of the mafia using shell corporations as layers of insulation.
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Governing Body Member Gerrit Loesch Must Eventually Take The Witness Stand In Child Molestation Lawsuits
by frankiespeakin inwith many more cases in the offing the zalkin lawfirm will press the issue again and again and force gerrit loesch to testify.
what say you?.
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In 1971, they made a clear distinction between the Governing Body and other legal entities. From w01 1/15 p. 29:
At that unforgettable annual meeting in 1971, a distinction was clearly drawn between the spirit-anointed members of the Governing Body and the directors of the Pennsylvania corporation. Still, members of the Governing Body continued to serve as directors and officers of the Society. Today, however, the question arises: Is there any Scriptural reason why the directors of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania must be members of the Governing Body?
The answer is no. The Pennsylvania corporation is not the only legal entity used by Jehovah’s Witnesses. There are others. One is the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Incorporated. It facilitates our work in the United States. Jehovah’s blessing has clearly been upon that corporation, though its directors and officers have been mainly of the “other sheep.” The International Bible Students Association is used in Britain. Other legal entities are used to promote Kingdom interests in other lands. All of them harmoniously assist and have a role to play in getting the good news preached earth wide. No matter where they are located or who serve as directors or officers, these entities are theocratically guided and used by the Governing Body. Hence, such entities have assigned tasks to perform in furthering Kingdom interests.And from w90 1/15 p. 26:
In modern times the Governing Body has been closely identified with the editorial staff of the Watch Tower Society and its board of directors. But the Governing Body differs from that legal corporation, as the speaker pointed out: “Since the corporation’s existence is purely legal, with a fixed geographic headquarters, it can be dissolved by Caesar, the State.” Not so the Governing Body, which is not a legal instrument but the members of which “are appointed through the holy spirit under the direction of Jehovah and Christ.” Thus, the Governing Body continues to function and to receive the unqualified support of Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide.
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My 88 Year Old Mom Is Going To Special Meeting Today And Shouldn't!
by minimus inmy mom only goes out for doctor's visits.
they are "encouraging" her to spend three hours to hear the annual meeting at the kh.
she is on oxygen and can barely move.
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It's a bit of an odd thing. They want as many to hear the program "live" as possible. They're packing assembly halls and KHs for the live program. Even my uber-JW wife is curious about this action. Makes her think they're going to announce something big. I haven't said anything to her about the rumor on this site about an announcement that will "test your faith". Personally, I think it will be much ado about nothing.
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Governing Body Member Gerrit Loesch Must Eventually Take The Witness Stand In Child Molestation Lawsuits
by frankiespeakin inwith many more cases in the offing the zalkin lawfirm will press the issue again and again and force gerrit loesch to testify.
what say you?.
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He said that he didn't work for the US Service Department. It is a side-step. He is probably claiming that he was still in Austria when he was connected to the service department - not in the US. It is a weasel tactic.
As of September, 2014, he DOES work in and supervise the US Service Committee. Likely, he worked in that committee prior to September, but I have no record of that. Is he making a fine line distinction between the Service Committee and the US Service Department?
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/286203/1/2014-JW-News
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Regional Building Committee - volunteers?
by Lynnie inso how do the regional building committee work?
i found out one of my female cousins (born in, left for many years and is now baptized) has filled out an application to "volunteer" on this committee.
what would she be doing since she's female?
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leaving_quietly
The Regional Building Committee (RBC) is basically a group of volunteers who handle KH / Assembly Hall construction / remodel. Many female volunteers are in there, and what they do range across all sorts of skills. I've seen some finished carpenters, some accountants, some roofers, etc. Most unskilled ones will either be selected to be training in an area that they express interest in, or they'll end up in the kitchen. That's fairly typical. About the only thing they can't do is be an overseer. Only elders can be overseers, skilled for the position or not.
She can't just work on any local project, though. Each volunteer has to be specifically assigned to work on a project.
As the name indicates RBCs are local. To go back to work at new Warwick project or any other non-local project, she'd have to fill out an application specific to those projects. About the only thing that she might be asked to help with, if necessary, is if a natural disaster hit elsewhere in the country. Then RBC volunteers from all over the country would be asked to help.