A policy instituted a couple of years ago made it such that COs over 70 go off the road. If this particular CO was surprised, then I'm betting he and his wife aren't 70, yet. Otherwise, it should not have been any surprise to him at all.
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CO in midwest gets pink-slipped
by LevelThePlayingField ini saw the coordinator heading for the stage and hit record on my ipad.
i was shocked but here it is.
here's my typed transcript of the letter he read:.
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Cooperate Members of the Watchtower Society
by James Jack ina older sister in miami florida has told me that the special pioneer couple who got their walking papers last week said they are also voting members of the watchtower society.
also his stock share is valued at $800,000!.
i did some research and spoke to some longtime witnesses and found out that there are 500 voting members of the society and they are also called shareholders.. has anyone ever of someone selling his share?.
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Certain corporation types have to have voting members by law. It's just the way it is in the U.S. However, them having shares that are actually worth something... well, that's very interesting. -
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Couldn't take it anymore.
by Darkknight757 inso i decided yesterday to give my wife's full disclosure.
not sure it was the best decision considering she holds very firmly to the resurrection hope so we can see our babies again.. anyways she is agreeable to begin a study to find a better truth.
where is a good place to go to get some good reliable biblical info on the web that we can consider together?.
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leaving_quietly
The Message bible is kinda fun to read, but it is really a highly paraphrased translation. I personally like the NIV, ESV and NET. The ESV is, IMO, closer to the original Greek, so in many places reads as unnaturally as the NWT. But the same biases aren't there (though I'm sure there are other biases).
You could always download the YouVersion app to your mobile devices and choose nearly any translation you want without spending a dime.
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Warwick Safety Orientation
by wifibandit inwelcome to warwick safety orientation!
each warwick volunteer is required to view the entire three-hour program and complete the five short quizzes one week before arriving at warwick.
to benefit fully from each of the five sections, we recommend that you set aside time in a quiet location with minimal distractions and give the program your full attention.
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We can say all sorts of bad things about WTBTS, but emphasis they put on safety on these construction sites IS good, regardless of their motivation. -
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CO Comes Up With A New Way To Be Judgemental...
by JW_Rogue inat the latest co visit something very strange happened.
during the meeting with the elders and servants he passed out a copy of a hypothetical publisher card and asked us what we could learn from it.
upon receiving it i saw that the average hours were pretty good, it had return visits and quite a few bible studies.
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leaving_quietly
Years ago, I was passed over for an appointment to being an elder because while my mag placement was fine, my books were next to nothing. Next visit, books were fine (because that's what I focused on) and mags were next to nothing. They said, "Jump!" I just jumped... didn't even bother asking, "how high?" That was my first taste of crap in the org. Stupid stuff, all this. -
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Baptism is it really a dedication to God, where in the Bible?
by Crazyguy ini haven't found a scripture where it says that baptism is a dedication to god.
i have only found in the book of acts chapter 2 i believe where baptism is for forgiveness of sins.
am i wrong?
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leaving_quietly
Here are my notes on the topic:
Dedication
The word “dedication” is never used in the scriptures related to baptism. The first mention of any baptism is in Matthew 3:6, so this was not a practice common to the Israelites until a much later period. The only time the word dedication is used in the Greek scriptures is at John 10:22 in relation to the “Festival of Dedication”. The word “dedicated” is used three times in the Greek scriptures, at Matthew 15:5, Mark 7:11 and Luke 21:5. Both Matthew and Mark were discussing corban, a gift dedicated to God, while Luke was discussing how the temple was “adorned with fine stones and dedicated things”. None of these were associated in any way with baptism.
That leaves me to wonder, then why does the Society feel we must first dedicate ourselves to God as a prerequisite to baptism? The scriptures make no such statement. This is yet another example of going “beyond the things that are written.”
Something to note are these two comments from decades ago:
w70 7/1 p. 404 par. 13
Christians must appreciate these facts. Their dedication is not to an organization nor to a work. Neither is it to a human or a government; it is only to the Creator himself, to Jehovah God, through Jesus Christ.
w66 10/1 pp. 603-604 par. 15
We do not dedicate ourselves to a religion, nor to a man, nor to an organization. No, we dedicate ourselves to the Supreme Sovereign of the Universe, our Creator, Jehovah God himself.
The use of “dedication” apparently comes from Jesus’ statement at Matt 16:24: “Then Jesus said to his disciples: “If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his torture stake and keep following me.”
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Reading the Bible in 6 months isn't "anything to brag about" - Anthony Morris
by mac n cheese inthe 2015 annual meeting, specifically, part 1, right about minute 27, has anthony morris emphasizing that "you're better off reading one chapter (of the bible) and really absorbing it" than just reading the whole thing "as a challenge".
while i agree with the the whole idea of meditating on anything you read, it was doing this very thing that brought up so many unanswered questions.
i also came to the constant realization that the jws did not have a clue about what the bible really said.
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They've said, "Read the Bible daily" for years and years and years. A few years ago, when I started waking up, I was like: "Challenge accepted." And I read it. Not just to read, but to do exactly what Mr. Morris said, really absorb it. This was a huge launch into me no longer believing JWs had the truth.
That said, the organization has members way too busy to read the Bible and really absorb it. Thus, the majority will not do so.
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Personally, I've never heard of any JW doing that. If they do, it's not openly admitted. I suspect that some who converted from another religion might, but those born in the religion most likely do not.
Let's take a poll here, since the audience of this forum is made up of both current and ex-JWs. Who here, while a JW, talked to Jesus?
I never did because I was taught it was wrong to do so. And yes, I considered talking to Jesus the same as praying to him.
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I've been a JW for over forty years. I can assure you that JWs do not pray to Jesus. As for talking to Jesus, to be honest, as far as I can tell, that has never been written about. I would dare to say that the vast majority do not. They would view praying and talking as the same thing. The most recent information on praying to Jesus found in the October 1, 2010 Watchtower. It says:
"Does the Bible instruct us to pray to Jesus, to Mary, to saints, or to angels? No—only to Jehovah. Consider two reasons why. First, prayer is a form of worship, and the Bible says that worship should go exclusively to Jehovah. (Exodus 20:5) Second, the Bible reveals that he bears the title “Hearer of prayer.” (Psalm 65:2) Although Jehovah delegates generously, this is a responsibility he has never passed on to anyone. He is the God who promises to hear our prayers personally."
The same Watchtower says this a little later:
"Here is yet another essential aspect of how to pray. Jesus said: “No one comes to the Father except through me.” (John 14:6) So Jesus is the means of our approach to the Father, Jehovah. Thus, Jesus told his followers to pray in his name. (John 14:13; 15:16) That does not mean that we should pray to Jesus. Rather, we pray in the name of Jesus, remembering that Jesus is the reason that we are able to approach our perfect and holy Father." (italics in the original article)
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Jehovahs Witnesses and the Name , HOW Important. ?
by smiddy injehovah`s witnesses place great emphasis on the importance of god`s name as jehovah .so much so that they are often accused by christendom`s religions as substituting jehovah for christ.. the old testament ( hebrew scriptures identify god as the tetragrammaton four hebrew consanants yhwh and not jhvh.
as mistakenly believed by a 13th century spanish monk .. modern scholars including the j.w.`s agree that the more accurate pronunciation of gods name would be more nearer to yahweh than the name jehovah .. so why do j.w.`s insist on the name ?
jehovah ?
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leaving_quietly
In northern California, there's a religious radio station that you can listen to down around Chico. Last year, when driving through the area, there was a program on and the guy talked about the name "Jehovah". He stated that it is the commonly used name in English. Other names are Yahweh or Jahveh (J in Hebrew is pronounce with a Y sound and V in Hebrew is pronounced with a W sound, thus some say Jahveh is the correct name, but I digress...). This guy didn't say anything at all about JWs... he was just being matter of fact about the name and its use in modern-day English.
I couldn't help but chuckle at this preacher from Christendom using the name Jehovah. I shook my head at this because of how long I was indoctrinated by WTBTS saying that Christendom hates that name and refuses to use it. Big ol' lie.