Sorry oompa. I have experienced the same thing with my sisters and cousins. The way they treat us is so crazy and unlike how Jesus treated people. It does hurt to be mistreated by those you love.
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"please sign in" was all mom said to me and my boys at her sisters funeral yesterday at the kindom hall
by oompa inmy dad never once looked at me...i went even though they did not come to the door when i went to tell her i was sorry about her sister...that i had heard through the grapvine her sister had died...they did not even ccall me...and they did not answer the phone when i left the message asking for the time and place of the funeral unless they did not want us to attend...and they did not call....but we all decided to go anyway and im glad we did....but it was surreal...i will share more later.
and i have a close friend nearby dfd about four years ago whose dad is dying and wont hardly ever talk to her... he does a bit but not her mom....neither does robert7s mom talk at all to him and yes it causes pain...but i think i am finally close to healing that last part of mine......oompa.
funny but just realized that the above two cases both people are recognizd as a son or daughter important enough to shun like me...but we dont get shunned like dfd and apostate sons at the funeral...just another attendee...wow.
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How many ex-jws poster here now believe in Hellfire, immortality of soul, trinity, etc;
by booker-t ini am just curious about this because although i agree with many of the posters here that the wt society is guilty of many horrible deeds, i still believe they are right when it comes to doctrinal things as i mention.
especially hellfire.
i just don't see how anybody that has studied the bible for many years like many of the ex-jws here can make an about face and go back to believing hellfire.
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I don't believe in hellfire. I just don't think it makes sense. It would take a diabolical GOD or person to punish anyone by burning them forever. I am not sure about the Trinity, I don't think I belive it. I am thinking that I don't believe in the Flood or the creation account because I ask myself, "How would anyone know how it all happend?" I think the writers just guessed that maybe that is what happened. I have also always had problems with Noah living for so long and just having three sons and those sons had no children. It does not ring true to me.
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Whats up?
by Iamallcool inwe can talk about anything but please do not get this thread locked.
thanks!
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Found Sheep, you are brave to jump out of a plane!
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by Iamallcool inwe can talk about anything but please do not get this thread locked.
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I have been on word for the day. It is interesting. I have had to look some of the words up before I can use them in a sentence.
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by Iamallcool inwe can talk about anything but please do not get this thread locked.
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My granddaugher got me hooked on the tv series "Friends" while I was visiting her recently. Now I have bought the 10 CDs of the series and I have been watching it every night. I have also bought about 40 books in the last few months. I have plenty with which to entertain myself. Today I bought the CD of "Casablanca" and the book "THE YEARS OF LYNDON JOHNSON/THE PASSAGE OF POWER." It looks like it is going to be interesting. I like history.
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UK child abuse lawyer contact details (keep bumping this thread)
by cedars ini've already received enquiries from those interested in hiring a lawyer to pursue their own child abuse claims in the wake of the candace conti verdict.
obviously, rick simons has excelled in his handling of the case, but i'm sure it wouldn't be practical for him to represent each-and-every potential client who are victims of child abuse.
i am thinking particularly of victims of molesters in the uk, where i am from.. i have no legal experience, and i am not personally acquianted with any lawyers specializing in this field.
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**MUST READ** AlanF's email to Knocking.org
by sf inthis is a must-read that, hopefully, will stay an "active topic" for all seekers and lurkers, by bumping it to the top as often as possible.
alan wrote it in randys {dogpatch} thread regarding knocking.org documentary and in reply to the email mr. engardio sent to barbara anderson.
however, it is so vital a read that it indeed needs its own thread:.
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What a great letter. BUMP.
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When you left the JW/WT religion, were you really an adult ?
by Phizzy ini spent decades in the religion, i was born in, so my world view, my education, my social skills, all were dictated by and controlled by the "religion".. i feel that when i left i was immature in many ways, i had never faced my own mortality, i knew nothing of the reality of evolution, i had never voted in an election, i had never donated blood, i had never confronted the reality of the bibles status etc etc etc.. it was like a child walking off in to the blue yonder, no knowledge, no experience.. the main problem was, i had never really made my own decisions, i had never had to consider all the evidence and then decide for myself.. it was frightening and yet exilarating at the same time, but i was woefully equipped for the real world.. how did you feel ?
confidant ?
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My family went without me- one more time. No one attended afterwards.
WOW! BOTR, you really had an influence on your family. I wish I had been as strong as you. I am the fifth daughter and the eighth chlid out of 10 children in our family. My older brother remaked to me a few years ago that when he got back from the Navy in 1958, he saw how my sisters bossed me around all the time. I was 14 and I guess I was accostomed to being told what to do by them. They were shocked when I left the borg and could not understand how they no longer had any influence on me. I guess I was a late starter, but I finally did get tired of being told what to do and think by everyone around me. I admire your strength and tenacity
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When you left the JW/WT religion, were you really an adult ?
by Phizzy ini spent decades in the religion, i was born in, so my world view, my education, my social skills, all were dictated by and controlled by the "religion".. i feel that when i left i was immature in many ways, i had never faced my own mortality, i knew nothing of the reality of evolution, i had never voted in an election, i had never donated blood, i had never confronted the reality of the bibles status etc etc etc.. it was like a child walking off in to the blue yonder, no knowledge, no experience.. the main problem was, i had never really made my own decisions, i had never had to consider all the evidence and then decide for myself.. it was frightening and yet exilarating at the same time, but i was woefully equipped for the real world.. how did you feel ?
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Phizzy wrote:
I had never voted in an Election, I had never donated blood, I had never confronted the reality of the Bibles status etc etc etc.
The main problem was, I had never really made my own decisions, I had never had to consider all the evidence and then decide for myself.
I was df'd as an adult, 40 yrs old. I have been so busy going to school and just making a living that I have not had the time to consider anything else. I did vote for the first time in 1980. I am just now, since I got on exjw sites, considering the status of the Bible and if some of what is written there is really the way it happened. Like you, I have never considered all the evidence and decided for myself. I find it disturbing and confusing. I have ordered several books and one, "Misquoting Jesus," has changed my view of the NT. I am still in learning mode and I have been out for nearly 28 years. WOW! That's a long time. I am also a born-in and it really messes with your mind when you have never known anything else.
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Ultimately it is the child who should stop the abuse according to the GB!
by life is to short inon page 171 of the "learn from the great teacher" book published in 2003 it shows a picture of a very cute little girl holding a ragged ann doll.
she is sitting on a chair in her bedroom with her hand out toward a man that is coming toward her.. the paragraphs say "so just as jesus needed protection, you also need to be protected from grown-ups-and even from other children-who may try to have sex with you.
usually, these people will pretend to be your friends.
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Sorry, I hit they button to soon.
I agree that the advice given is correct and agree with what 00DAD posted. Also,as another poster stated, when children are taught to obey without question, it becomes easier for pedophiles to abuse them. Children should be encourged to protest if they feel they do not like what is being done to them, but the borg has not promoted this.This also goes for adult members. The organization demands obedience without dissent from all it's members. The borg has already been found wanting in protecting it's members from abuse by it's policy of keeping secret the presense of these pedophiles in the congregations. They are being hypocritical in what they say in this book. Candace told and it did not do her any good until she got an attotney. The borg refused to help her!! A child or a young person should never be made to feel responsible for the abuse. How in the world can a child behave seductively or ask for the abuse. That is just absurd.