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  Pascal's Wager, Best Answer I Have Heard

  by Diest in

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  many of us have heard of pascal's wager.

  basically that you can bet on god and receive an infinite reward, or you can bet against him and live an easier life for 80 years.

  this guy proves that the wager is really misstated.. .

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  I haven't watched the video yet but my thinking is that what is,is. No one knows if there is a God or not. No on knows what happens after death, but what is,is already established. If, as Pascal's Wager states (from memory), If I believe in God and he does not exist, I haven't lost anything.If I don't believe and he does exist, well I will have to deal with that and the consequences of not believing. If I believe and he does exist, maybe it will turn out well for me. That is not the reason I believe that there is an intelligent Being behind creation, but the Wager sounds good to me and I don't lose anything from believing.
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  The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses - Explained

  by cedars in

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  i've just finished putting together a fairly exhaustive article that summarizes a number of key details about the governing body that most jehovah's witnesses are completely unaware of.

  a link to the article is below:.

  http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/the-governing-body-of-jehovahs-witnesses-explained.

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  Self-Actualization

  by frankiespeakin in

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  while i have come across this term before i never looked up what it meant.

  so while reading about what "peak expreiences" are i came across the term again and decide to give wiki a try.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/self-actualization.

  self-actualization is a term that has been used in various psychology theories, often in slightly different ways.

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  frankiespeakin, are you taking a class, reading, or just sharing this information with us? Just curious.

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  Self-Actualization

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while i have come across this term before i never looked up what it meant.

  so while reading about what "peak expreiences" are i came across the term again and decide to give wiki a try.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/self-actualization.

  self-actualization is a term that has been used in various psychology theories, often in slightly different ways.

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  I wonder if someone reaches 'self-actualization'... do they even think of it in such terms? My guess is not. They just... are who they are.

  tec, I think you are right about these people not thinking they are "self-actualized," but I think they would have a feeling of being complete and being comfortable in their own skin and confident in themselves; maybe someone like Nelson Mandela, who did so much to help his people even though it meant years of prison for himself.
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  Self-Actualization

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while i have come across this term before i never looked up what it meant.

  so while reading about what "peak expreiences" are i came across the term again and decide to give wiki a try.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/self-actualization.

  self-actualization is a term that has been used in various psychology theories, often in slightly different ways.

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  panhandlegirl

  The wts actually works against it's members obtaing or reaching any, but maybe the first level of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. As mentioned by 00DAD, they even interfere with the most basic physiological need of sex, by placing rules on it that it scars it's members. The very word "self," such as in "self-esteem" or "self-actualization" is anathema to them, unless, of course, it applies to them as "God's channel of communication" meeting their needs. It's no wonder jws are so stunted in their growth. I can not recall any time that, as a JW, we were ever encourged to think of our "self" and any needs we might have that did not promote the organizations needs first.
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  Self-Actualization

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while i have come across this term before i never looked up what it meant.

  so while reading about what "peak expreiences" are i came across the term again and decide to give wiki a try.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/self-actualization.

  self-actualization is a term that has been used in various psychology theories, often in slightly different ways.

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  Gosh, you don't really even get past 'Safety' let alone achieve 'Self-Actualization' on Maslow's pyramid when you're in Watchtower World

  BOC, didn't you post all the infor on the "Safeguard your Heart" talk given at the DC. I thought it was a very good analysis of the talk.
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  Self-Actualization

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while i have come across this term before i never looked up what it meant.

  so while reading about what "peak expreiences" are i came across the term again and decide to give wiki a try.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/self-actualization.

  self-actualization is a term that has been used in various psychology theories, often in slightly different ways.

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  We study Maslow's hierarchy of needs theory a lot in nursing and also in several core classes. I guess that's one of the reasons that the borg is so against a college education. Another interesting theory is Erik Erikson's Developmetal Stages that describe development from birth to very old age and the different things that need to be accomplished in each stage. When you look at life in the manner that these theorists describe, your view changes. This "self-actualization" is what the WTS is against. I also feel the borg squashes the normal developmental stages described by Erikson... The WTS wants to keep it's members from attaining their potential and wants to keep them down at the botttom of the pyramid. I hope I did not get off topic. It's just that these are two of my favorite theorists and I have written several papers on them and their theories.

  The self-actualization of an individual is completely against the borg's teachings. The post about the talk, "Safe guarding your heart," given at the recent DC shows how determined the borg is to keep jws from gaining self esteem, much less any "self-actualization."

  This is a good topic for discussion imo. Glad you brought it up.
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  Oh cr*p I need help

  by Qcmbr in

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  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18770328#g1a39h1.68w80.74c167 .

  my life has to change pretty quickly!

  !.

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  My BMW is 26, like someone from Haite. Yikes, I think I can have some icecream.
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  Old People ask....?

  by dreamgolfer in

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  this is wide open for all - lets have fun!.

  i will start -.

  question # 1) why dont my children come see me any more?.

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  When are you coming to fix my steps and sweep the pine needles off the roof. I know I should be able climb up to the roof but my hip may give out.
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  Thought Reform and the Psychology of the 'Safeguard Your Heart!' 2012 Convention

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to make attendance at my second district convention "mentally out" both a little more bearable and meaningful, i decided to take some notes of key points as if i were an outsider studying the thought reform methods of jehovah's witnesses.

  at first, i was only going to share these notes with my therapist, but inspired by the "parsing the watchtower double-speak" thread, i figured i would share my amateur analysis with everyone.

  here are some of the highlights:.

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  Breakfast of champions:

  Excellent post and analysis. I have asked myself why, as I was growing up, I never had a clear idea of what I wanted in/or out of life, or even what I really felt about life. As you have pointed out, the borg/FDS (so called) manipulates and damages your self-concept until you never question what you might think or want. I can't believe that I accepted and let these people decide the course of my young life for nearly forty years. I never thought that they might not have my best interest in mind. As 00DAD stated:

  So let's review. The WT gave us an "expectation" that was very exciting: Paradise Earth, Eternal Life! We put our hopes on it. Some of us bet everything on it. It has been unfulfilled because they are--to put it bluntly--wrong. And we're not supposed to be disappointed by this? WTF are these guys smoking?!?!?

  How cowardly of them to continue pretending they "have the Truth" when all they do is lie. They are fraudulent, religious con-artists making promises that they can't keep and then blaming us for their failures. It really should be criminal what they do.

  Why oh why did I ever believe these guys?

  My sentiments exactly.

  I see that they are becoming more demanding of the members. They are demanding your mind, heart, and soul, without letting you ask, or dare think, about what they are declaring as true. This is scary because so many will think and follow whatever the GB tells them to do. I have close to a hundred members of my family in this organization (only five of us out) and I have no hope that any of them will ever leave it.