Posts by panhandlegirl

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Faithful and Discreet Slave serves LEFTOVERS!!???

by Terry in

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panhandlegirl

When I was in my early-mid twenties my older brother, who had been an elder, was always giving me reasons why the FDS was wrong about many things. I did not believe him but his reasonings began to make inroads into my

faith in the FDS. By the time I reached my mid-thirties, I had started fading. I no longer attended meeting or did field service by "76. I don't really think I was a nit-wit. It is difficult to leave everything you have always believed and

everyone you have know for your entire life. I did it, but I still feel "in trasition." I don't belive there is any FDS nor do I believe anything they teach, but as long as the majority of my family is still in, I am not totally free. As we can

see from those on this forum that stay in the borg because they are not ready to lose their entire family, the borg has the ability to hold you hostage. I guess some don't leave out of fear or the inability to admit that everything

they have believed was a lie.

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Computer chair philosophers:

by FlyingHighNow in

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friends

''i believe in everything, until it's disproved.

so i believe in fairies, the myths, dragons.

it all exists even it's in your mind.

panhandlegirl

I like John Lennon but can you imagine that he and Yoko could really "Imagine no possessions. I wonder if you can." I do not think John could "imagine" that. No way. It's a nice thought but not realistic. As he said," I just believe in

me, Yoko and me, and that's reality." Nevertheless, I like his and the Beatles music; listen to it every day by means of Pandora. Personally, I value my possessions. When I can't find my favorite pen or book I tear the house up until

I find them/it. Most of my friends are the same way; don't you dare take their favorite pen, they wiil search heaven and hell to find it! It's their pen!

Sorry, I don't think John is trying to make any point, he's just talking. I would not give any credence to what he said. He was a great songwriter/entertainer, that's all. It's too bad he was killed.

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Why would you make an 83 yr old woman go out in service????

by loosie in

i am trying to contact my mothers elders in riverside ca, because my mother doesn't talk to her family.

since that means at least 12 phone calls to various kh's i thought i'd start with my aunt to see what the name of the congegation is.

unfortunatly she didn't know.

panhandlegirl

BOTR wrote:

I will never forget how hard she cried. She was humiliated but would not complain. It was shaming. Family members were outraged and told her they would call someone at Bethel for her. The overseer was just some local nobody. She cried. NOt a true JW after an entire lifetime of effort. She was born-in to a member of the remnant during Russell's time.

That is really sad about your grandmother. It's hard to believe how some people can be so unfeeling.

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Why would you make an 83 yr old woman go out in service????

by loosie in

i am trying to contact my mothers elders in riverside ca, because my mother doesn't talk to her family.

since that means at least 12 phone calls to various kh's i thought i'd start with my aunt to see what the name of the congegation is.

unfortunatly she didn't know.

panhandlegirl

good for you loosie, I hope you set them in line about your mother's safety, but as another poster stated, she may need some association with these people to keep herself happy and fulfilled.

PHG

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Scientific Careers and Race

by Quendi in

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panhandlegirl

bts, you are correct, Hispanics are very different, depending on where they came from. I am not so sure they vote as a block, but I will leave that to those who know more than I do. I am a so called "Chicana;" don't know nothing

about Mexico. Well, yes I do. I have a BA in Spanish but am American to the core. I confess I don't know about life in Mexico through experience.Things, life was different back in the day, the younger generation of those whose

ancestors lived in the US before Texas and the West were part of the US, is quite different today, but there are not enough of them getting educated as there are Blacks or Caucasians getting an education.

From what I have read, Hispanics, excluding Cubans, are not even graduating from High School on a large scale. I am pro-Hispanic and would like for them to do better. What is your opinion about why Hispanics are not more

represented in sciences or math?

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New YouTube video - Anthony Morris warns us against the horrors of higher education

by cedars in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzcneuuajvg.

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cedars.

panhandlegirl

The person without a degree asks "Would you like fries with that?" [Or: paper or plastic?]

St. George, that is funny. Isn't that sortof a line from "Scent of a Woman"? I love that movie,.

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Lessons learned from CASABLANCA

by Terry in

jw
friends

i watched casablanca last night.

rick blaine is cyncial and an alcoholic.. but, he rises above his malaise to do the "right thing" to make the world a better place.

he realizes he doesn't need to sacrifice love or life to do it--he only has to incorporate a larger view of what is valuable into his life and exchange something valuable to achieve it.. in other words, this film has a vision that allows an ideal through behavior by demonstrating a greater opportunity than mere complaint, destruction or self-destruction.

panhandlegirl

I just happened to buy "Casablanca" a few days ago. I have seen the movie, but it's been years ago. I will watch it this week. My coworkers are all much younger than me and I am struck with the difference in expectations. Most

of them don't really realize what a good life they have. They expect a lot. I don't believe they realize what their grandparents gave for them to have what they take for granted. They are good and giving people, but I just don't

believe they know what their parent's and especially their grandparents have provided for them.

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New YouTube video - Anthony Morris warns us against the horrors of higher education

by cedars in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzcneuuajvg.

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cedars.

panhandlegirl

The longer I contemplate this video the more disgusted I become. I don't think Anthony is an idiot. I think he a lying and deceiving B*****d. I will bet he does not practice what he preaches. To compare a university degree with

so called "higher education" provided by the wts is ludicrous. I'm sure if Anthony needed an iv chemotherapy drug, he would not ask another member of the GB (whose higher education was obtained through the wts) to mix it up for

him. That would be certain death, or make his disease worse. If he was an idiot, that would be one thing, but he knows he is lying to the sheep who trust him. He is rotten to the core.

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What is this primitive notion of SELF-SACRIFICE?

by Terry in

among jehovah's witnesses self-sacrifice is a price everybody is expected to pay.. members of this religious group are told they are being watched by the world as a public spectacle in an ancient roman coliseum.. all sorts of sacrifices must be transacted to convince jehovah of their sincerety and to titillate the worldly people with spectacular acts of faith.. .

jw's give up the best secular education and the highest-paying careers.

it is a sacrifice.. jw's have been urged to give up marriage and child-rearing to devote time to door to door evangelizing work.

panhandlegirl

One of my earliest memories of my mother was her saying we had to suffer and sacrifice. I believe she carried this belief from the Catholic Church into her jw belief. I grew up thinking "we all have to sacrifice," so I did.

I sacrificed my youth, my life to my husband's wishes, to anyone who needed a patsy to sacrifice for them, no matter what it cost me. When my mother told me, yet again when I was older, that I had to suffer/sacrifice, I

challenged her with the question "Why do we all have to sacrifice? What good is it to sacrifice?" I decided I did not want to sacrifice anymore. I even told my husband that my sacrificing days were over, done. I told him my first

years had been sacrificed for what he wanted and now it was my turn. I was now #1 and he was # 2 on the importance list. Sounds mean, but it is not. I would sacrifice for my children, maybe even for a stranger who really

needed something, but not for a religion. As you correctly stated Terry, God is self sufficient, He does not need anything we have. Jesus' sacrifice covered all people's sins forever. There is no other sacrifice needed; especially

no sacrificing for the WTS. Faith is a personal response. It does not require a sacrifice. Sacrifice could be described as "altruism - unselfish regard for or a devotion to the wefare of others" (Merriam-Webster). Nelson Mandela is a

prime example of this and altruism is something to be admired and I believe it is practiced by many, but it has no place in religion, in the sense of " for the religion."

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Scientific Careers and Race

by Quendi in

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panhandlegirl

The President of the Oncology Nurses Organization, a world wide nurses organization is a vibrant Black woman from Atlanta, GA.