Posts by panhandlegirl

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Interesting quotes from the Feb 15th Watchtower (it's not a cult at all, honest!)...

by cedars in

well it's the 15th today, so i thought i'd check to see whether the feb 15th watchtower has been uploaded yet... and sure enough it has.. here is the link to the pdf.... http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/5a/w_e_20130215.pdf.

i've breezed through it and noticed that it is littered with odd stuff that would scream "cult!

" to an outsider, but which your average indoctrinated jw will just lap up as always.. here is my pick of the quotes.... the first article, entitled "this is our spiritual heritage" gives a very flattering whistle-stop tour of the history of god's organization - from abraham to tynedale to rutherford (bypassing russell altogether) before explaining that nothing will ever thwart jehovah's purposes.

panhandlegirl

cedars, glad you're posting again, thanks for the video.

I can't believe I ever took this stuff seriously. Now, it's not only creepy, but "Are you kidding me?" How do they come up with all this stuff. There is no proof for their assertions. They just say it.

At least two of the people in that picture are wearing UNAPPROVED western style string ties...

James, what do they have against "western style string ties?" Did some bad person mentioned in the Bible wear one at one time? Kind of like people dying during someone's birthday, now no one can celebrate a birthday. Reminds me of when they disapproved of leisure suits, dingo boots and long hair on men. Does God even care what you wear!

PHG

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Remembering Our Dear Richard Rawe

by Dogpatch in

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richard m. rawe was born may 10, 1934. he died in his sleep a little before midnight, october 26, 1012, in soap lake, washington.

his death was caused by probable acute myocardial infarction and cardiovascular disease.. in 1995, richard had a major stroke that left him with damage to his vocal cords.

previous to the stroke he had a beautiful speaking voice and was much in demand as a speaker in kingdom halls in the northwest when he was a jehovahs witness prior to 1975. in his later years, richard was the host with the raspy, croaky voice of the dialogue telephone conference-line program which hundreds of people listened to twice a month on saturday evening.. up until his death, richard was an attractive, partially balding, gray-haired man, still tall and elegant in appearance, who carried himself with class and dignity no matter how bad he physically felt.

panhandlegirl

Thanks for posting this, Randy. He was quite a man. I heard him when Candi's lawyer was interviewed in the radio. A great loss for all who oppose the WTS.

PHG

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Taking alcohol into the veins (WBT$ illo) - can someone deconstruct this for me?

by punkofnice in

ok. so i've heard that the wbt$ say that having alcohol into the body intraveniously (how do you spell it?

), when the doctor says you shouldn't have alcohol is baaaadddd!

so you wouldn't have a blood transfusion because invisible sky friend jar hoover says it's baaaaaddddddd.. no doubt the illustration is beyond crazy but how is the best way to deconstruct it?.

panhandlegirl

Someone made a comment on AGuest's thread (the one that was closed),about Jesus saying (at the Last Supper) Take,drink, this is my blood that I give on your behalf,(paraphrasing). I had not ever thought about it, but if Jesus could say this, even though the wine was symbolic of his blood, it seems to me that Jesus had no problem with drinking blood. Makes sense to me.

I'm not sure, but I would think puting alcohol directly into the veins could prove fatal.

PHG

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How do you keep your hopes up while in this doomed existence?

by sabastious in

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coming from aguest's thread where she showed us the article that describes a "brain drain" that has been occuring for centuries do to "mutations" i can't help but be a little fed up with how much negativity comes from the land of science.

sure, facts are facts and they do not set out to sound good or bad, but instead of identifying the problems of doom, like our brains are devolving, why not focus on the solutions to those problems?

where are the hopes and dreams that our culture so desperately holds onto which actually provides the drive to progress towards them.

panhandlegirl

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A Loving father.

by creativhoney in

one parallel i always remember is that jehovah god is likened to a loving father.

i have often wondered what kind of loving parent would go out indefinitely, not say where they were and leave their kids a vague and cryptic note of what to do while they were gone?

i have wondered what kind of parent would make it hard for their kids to figure out exactly what was expected of them, or watch them fail miserably from a distance.

panhandlegirl

Is that the father that has to be praised day and night? Is he that unsure of himself, or that narcissistic?

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Video of the Annual Meeting / new FDS understanding on JW.org

by cedars in

i apologize if this is old news or has already been discussed, but i notice the society has posted a video commenting on the annual meeting and the adjusted understanding of matthew 24:45 on jw.org.. here is the link.... http://www.jw.org/en/news/events-activities/video-clip-2012-annual-meeting-program/.

thoughts?.

cedars.

panhandlegirl

And really, how can the Faithful Slave not know who the Faithful Slave is? The apostles knew they were apostles. The prophets knew they were prophets. Jesus knew he was the Christ.

They must have an self-identification problem. They are who they have to be an any given time. The identity problem is resolved with new light.

It's an amazing maneuver of self-promotion. I am wondering if the real aim is to erase the wall between the "Annointed" and the "Great Crowd", so they can do away with the literal 144000 doctrine.

Now, that new light would blow me away, but I would not be surprised to see them do it. How do you think that would benefit their status?

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Video of the Annual Meeting / new FDS understanding on JW.org

by cedars in

i apologize if this is old news or has already been discussed, but i notice the society has posted a video commenting on the annual meeting and the adjusted understanding of matthew 24:45 on jw.org.. here is the link.... http://www.jw.org/en/news/events-activities/video-clip-2012-annual-meeting-program/.

thoughts?.

cedars.

panhandlegirl

I found it interesting towards the end when David Splane said: "And brothers, we LOVE this teaching. We LOVE this idea, because it really truly does dignify the members of the Great Crowd."

cedars, I found it interesting also, but for a different reason. He carefully worded his statment to dignify the Great Crowd but made no mention of how the other anointed ones were demoted to a lower rank. As I understand the "new light" the other anointed are no longer a part of the FDS class. I wonder how they will react to the new light? Now, being of the anointed class means nothing. They are just domestics like the great crowd.

PHG

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apropos of absolutely nothing

by Hortensia in

i occasionally go on self-improvement benders, as witness my attempt to eat healthy food this week.

that is going well, so i thought i'd check out where i am intellectually.

the guardian recently published a list of the 100 greatest novels of all time.

panhandlegirl

Jose Garcas is a good cook -- I bet that's a wonderful cookbook.

Hortensia, I don´t watch the Food Channel, so I had never heard of Jose Garcas, but from what I read about him, he must be good.He won an award from James Beard. I hope I do his recipes justice. I have never read anything written by Barbara Tuchman or Thomas Cahill, but I will look for their books next time I go to B&N. I like knowing what others are reading or have read. It expands my list of authors to read.

WinstonSmith, the GINGERBREAD LATTE sorcery was really quite good, especially topped with whipped cream. It´s nearing Thanksgiving time so I decided to try something new. It hit the spot on a cold, windy SE GA day.

PHG

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How do you keep your hopes up while in this doomed existence?

by sabastious in

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coming from aguest's thread where she showed us the article that describes a "brain drain" that has been occuring for centuries do to "mutations" i can't help but be a little fed up with how much negativity comes from the land of science.

sure, facts are facts and they do not set out to sound good or bad, but instead of identifying the problems of doom, like our brains are devolving, why not focus on the solutions to those problems?

where are the hopes and dreams that our culture so desperately holds onto which actually provides the drive to progress towards them.

panhandlegirl

I don't know what the afterlife is. I have my speculations but I only know that it exists and not a whole lot about it. Do we sit there and talk about all the horrible stuff we went through? Is heaven like a really big therapy room where everyone shares their life lessons with each other?

If there is an afterlife, I hope it's not a big therapy room. I'm sick of therapy and sharing life's lessons. I hope in the afterlife we see our loved ones, meet people from other planets, learn new things, dance, drink wine, and have a great time. Forget what happened on earth. Let´s get on with the afterlife. Dare I say, Let´s party! We just passed finals!

PHG

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apropos of absolutely nothing

by Hortensia in

i occasionally go on self-improvement benders, as witness my attempt to eat healthy food this week.

that is going well, so i thought i'd check out where i am intellectually.

the guardian recently published a list of the 100 greatest novels of all time.

panhandlegirl

Just got back from Barnes and Noble. Had a blueberry scone and a gingerbread latte. Bought three books: The Barbabous Years, The Peopling of British North America: The Conflict of Civilizations, 1600-1675. I like history and it looked like a good book. Also bought a book of poems by Pablo Neruda:Veinte poemas de amor y una cancíon desesperada y Cien sonetos de amor. The cover is so nice: four rows of ponegranate seeds set against a white background on the front cover and a whole pomegranate on the back cover. Lastly, I bought a cookbook The Latin Road Home by Jose Garces, the recipes are of foods from Ecuador, Spain, Cuba, Mexico, and Peru. The pictures of the food looked so delicious, I just had to have it. I am going to cook some of this food.