I agree with what Hortensia said but I would add to live eveyday as if it was your last and be a good friend to others.This life may be all we have, we have to make the most of it.
PHG
i was thinking about this today, many of the things i was told.
about life was a lie.
we were duped by the wt and by religion as.
I agree with what Hortensia said but I would add to live eveyday as if it was your last and be a good friend to others.This life may be all we have, we have to make the most of it.
PHG
it just all hit me at once,i was with a friend earlier talking and i felt really good after our talk.
went down my moms,and wifey text me she going to meeting,and all this stress and anxiety hit me all at once.
this crazey it consumes my mind and no my body.
Unstopable, so sorry you are having to deal with the shunning. After 30 years of being shunned, it still upsets me but I have learned to deal with it. Counseling or seeing a doctor may not be a bad idea. I am not familiar with your personal story but I hope you have some support. As aguest stated, deep breaths can calm you down. I used to talk to myself about what I was experiencing and why; It helped me to understand and deal with the shunning. Everyone here is here to help you deal with your situation. We've been there and some are still there. The borg really knows how to bring people pain.
PHG
terry's thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/127651/1.ashx got me to thinking about this.. one of the characteristics of the wts is to "weather the storm" of a major disappointment, and, as evidenced by the last two major cycles, count on the death (as much in a literal sense as a figurative one) of the generation of jws that went through that debacle...and thence to recommence with the eschatological emphasis as if nothing had happened.. the post-1925 period is perhaps even more exemplative of this than the post-1914 period, because a good many bible students, grasping at every straw to salvage their belief system, swallowed the chronological recalculations and jubilee-cycle antitype interpretations, which extended 1914 to 1925. but 1925 was the last straw for most of them.
it initiated a major revolt among the rank-and-file (and especially the elders...the leaders of "that generation") which haunted the wts for the next 20 years, and a chronological review of the watchtower articles and books during the entire rutherford period shows a preoccupation with vilifying those who dared to remind of that debacle.. with the 50s came a major expansion in the wts, and a consequent dilution of that disillusioned group.
those that were still alive, and who were still jws, had by that time invested so much of their lives into that way of life that...well, how could they find the muster to dump off 40 years of life energy and say, finally, "well, i was wrong, wasn't i?
God ! that makes me feel old., but you are right . When we were young boys or girls in "The Truth", how did we view the old books that some of them still had in the house? I mean stuff that,in my case, had been printed in the 1940's or before. We viewed them as mere curiosities, collectors items to be put on the shelf, nothing more. It is scary to think that that is how the study books of my time must now be seen.
The under 40's would not know what it was like to be living in confidence of Armageddon within "months not years" , the under 20's never have expected the "1914 generation " to never die out.
BluesBrother, it makes me feel old too but it also makes me feel dumb for believing it all. As you stated, we viewed all those old books, such as Children and others as collector's items that did not concern us.I even remember when they stopped printing the Let God Be True book. I guess the books we studied during the sixties and seventies have been shelved as relics too, especially since many new jws are not aware of the 1975 debacle and the organization denies what they told us. I know people who quit their jobs and /or sold their homes because of the belief the the end was near, around the corner, at the threshold. When I tell people what I believed as a young person, that the end was coming in 1975, and why I, and thousands of jws did not go to college, the are incredulous. As bad as I hate it, I believe the WTS can just keep on declaring new light and postponing the end, yet keeping the r/f in constant expectation of the end. It just makes me sick to see how this organization mistreats the flock and takes their money for their own advancement
ray franz requested that i post the following comments written by him:
as has been stated already, the presentation made from the silent lambs source in connection with the child abuse issue completely misrepresents my position.
when i spoke by phone recently with the author of that presentation, and pointed out that i had never expressed the views presented, his comment was that from his previous conversation with me (held some months earlier) he "got the impression that i was not on the same wave length" with him.
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now i just have to sign on the dotted line and drop it off and i shall once again be in the permanent job field.
i won't be earning a huge amount by any means but it is enough to cover my bills and to save a little bit.
this does give me that relief of finances coming in, of course i'll be keeping my ears and eyes open for better opportunities, but that being said i shall embrace this new opportunity with open arms and eagerness.. it's been a hellofa tough year people - hellofa tough.
LouBelle, so glad that things are looking up for you. It is hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel at times; bad times test you to the limit. So happy for you that you have the strength to endure. I wish you success in your new job.
You seem to have a vigor for life. Go for it and suck that marrow out of life.
PHG
wonderful news!
my sister in law started attending mass almost two months ago, and stopped bringing their two young children to the kh.
my brother lingered and attempted to bring them back into the fold.
Great News!
what rules do you follow when pronouncing foreign names/places/things?
i was remembering that when we were studying the daniel book for the book study back in the day, someone released a pronunciation guide.
i remember studying it closely so i could pronounce all the names right (especially on the section of daniel 11).
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i posted this on an older thread, but i wanted to get an honest opinion about this from all of you.
i think taking the 1975 approach with a jw is...weak.
was it wrong (and false prophetic) of them?
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i know this has been discussed before but i think a fresh thread on this will be enjoyable.
Bro Sterner, not sure if that is the correct spelling. He was supposedly a former professer who gave up his family for the "truth." I once asked him if I could speak to my father, who was df'd and his answer was "Why would you ever want to speak to a df'd person? I was only 19 and very
intimidated by the him. He was a big fat man. When he got cancer everyone was upset except me. I dislike the man and did not care when he died. He was so overbearing. Anybody remember him?
PHG
i had to buy a new desk top cp and it has windows 8 installed.
i had not even learned windows 7 yet.
i was on the phone for > half a day trying it get my new netgear modum going.
I had to buy a new desk top cp and it has windows 8 installed. I had not even learned windows 7 yet. I'm not sure I like it. How about anyone else?
I was on the phone for > half a day trying it get my new netgear modum going. What a headache when your cp and internet go down, especially if
you don't know what you're doing. The internet is an essentil part of life.
PHG