they argue that we never tire of our food , never tire of sex (except the single resurrected who will be celibate) etc etc, there is so much to see and do.
so we all want to live forever and never die:.
life in paradise -.
I must just be a worldy person because I love watching tv,movies, drinking wine, dancing and just having fun. I like working and making money so I can spend it on clothes, shoes, or whatever I happen to want to buy. I don't think I am Paradise material. I don't want to follow orders all the time. I like to do my own thing.I like to rule myself.
PHG
they argue that we never tire of our food , never tire of sex (except the single resurrected who will be celibate) etc etc, there is so much to see and do.
so we all want to live forever and never die:.
life in paradise -.
I always thought I wanted to live forever in Paradise, and I really don't want to die, but I don't think I ever really thought it through. Since really considering how life would be like living under the leadship of the WTS in Paradise,it would feel more like Hell , I don't think I want to live that way now or forever. But because I don't belive it's going to happen that way for anyone,I guess it's a moot point. It would be so boring and unbearable, I could not stand it.
PHG
http://vimeo.com/50792317 .
i believe that everyone of us, witnesses or not, should take a look at this video.
it's a beautifully done short film/documentary about robert fitzpatrick shot starting on may 1st, 2011 until the 21st of may.
wasblind, my daughter does't trust my judgement either. When I gave her some advice about a certain religion, she replied that I had told her the WTS was the "truth" and it turned out to be wrong so she no longer trusted me about religion.
She was a born-in into the borg. Thank God she never got baptized. Like one of the people in the video said: " No one knows the day or the hour," why do people keep predicting the unknowable!
cantleave, I hate religion also.
PHG
we have 9 guns for every 10 people in this country.
since more guns = better protection, i keep asking myself why there is so much gun violence here ???.
i don't see such violence in canada, australia, europe, japan and other so-called "advanced" countries.. what is wrong with us here.
One of the problems, imo, with the mind of Americans is all the violence that young (and old) people are exposed to on tv and video games.When people
are constantly exposed to violence it becomes accepted. As someone said, OJ did not need a gun to kill his wife ( yes I know he was found
innocent).People can use any means to kill other than a gun, they can use a car bomb or anything else they can think to use. I have always believed
it is the violence that we have grown to accept that makes people capable of doing such violence toward others.
PHG
i was thinking about this today, many of the things i was told.
about life was a lie.
we were duped by the wt and by religion as.
I agree with what Hortensia said but I would add to live eveyday as if it was your last and be a good friend to others.This life may be all we have, we have to make the most of it.
PHG
it just all hit me at once,i was with a friend earlier talking and i felt really good after our talk.
went down my moms,and wifey text me she going to meeting,and all this stress and anxiety hit me all at once.
this crazey it consumes my mind and no my body.
Unstopable, so sorry you are having to deal with the shunning. After 30 years of being shunned, it still upsets me but I have learned to deal with it. Counseling or seeing a doctor may not be a bad idea. I am not familiar with your personal story but I hope you have some support. As aguest stated, deep breaths can calm you down. I used to talk to myself about what I was experiencing and why; It helped me to understand and deal with the shunning. Everyone here is here to help you deal with your situation. We've been there and some are still there. The borg really knows how to bring people pain.
PHG
terry's thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/127651/1.ashx got me to thinking about this.. one of the characteristics of the wts is to "weather the storm" of a major disappointment, and, as evidenced by the last two major cycles, count on the death (as much in a literal sense as a figurative one) of the generation of jws that went through that debacle...and thence to recommence with the eschatological emphasis as if nothing had happened.. the post-1925 period is perhaps even more exemplative of this than the post-1914 period, because a good many bible students, grasping at every straw to salvage their belief system, swallowed the chronological recalculations and jubilee-cycle antitype interpretations, which extended 1914 to 1925. but 1925 was the last straw for most of them.
it initiated a major revolt among the rank-and-file (and especially the elders...the leaders of "that generation") which haunted the wts for the next 20 years, and a chronological review of the watchtower articles and books during the entire rutherford period shows a preoccupation with vilifying those who dared to remind of that debacle.. with the 50s came a major expansion in the wts, and a consequent dilution of that disillusioned group.
those that were still alive, and who were still jws, had by that time invested so much of their lives into that way of life that...well, how could they find the muster to dump off 40 years of life energy and say, finally, "well, i was wrong, wasn't i?
God ! that makes me feel old., but you are right . When we were young boys or girls in "The Truth", how did we view the old books that some of them still had in the house? I mean stuff that,in my case, had been printed in the 1940's or before. We viewed them as mere curiosities, collectors items to be put on the shelf, nothing more. It is scary to think that that is how the study books of my time must now be seen.
The under 40's would not know what it was like to be living in confidence of Armageddon within "months not years" , the under 20's never have expected the "1914 generation " to never die out.
BluesBrother, it makes me feel old too but it also makes me feel dumb for believing it all. As you stated, we viewed all those old books, such as Children and others as collector's items that did not concern us.I even remember when they stopped printing the Let God Be True book. I guess the books we studied during the sixties and seventies have been shelved as relics too, especially since many new jws are not aware of the 1975 debacle and the organization denies what they told us. I know people who quit their jobs and /or sold their homes because of the belief the the end was near, around the corner, at the threshold. When I tell people what I believed as a young person, that the end was coming in 1975, and why I, and thousands of jws did not go to college, the are incredulous. As bad as I hate it, I believe the WTS can just keep on declaring new light and postponing the end, yet keeping the r/f in constant expectation of the end. It just makes me sick to see how this organization mistreats the flock and takes their money for their own advancement
ray franz requested that i post the following comments written by him:
as has been stated already, the presentation made from the silent lambs source in connection with the child abuse issue completely misrepresents my position.
when i spoke by phone recently with the author of that presentation, and pointed out that i had never expressed the views presented, his comment was that from his previous conversation with me (held some months earlier) he "got the impression that i was not on the same wave length" with him.
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now i just have to sign on the dotted line and drop it off and i shall once again be in the permanent job field.
i won't be earning a huge amount by any means but it is enough to cover my bills and to save a little bit.
this does give me that relief of finances coming in, of course i'll be keeping my ears and eyes open for better opportunities, but that being said i shall embrace this new opportunity with open arms and eagerness.. it's been a hellofa tough year people - hellofa tough.
LouBelle, so glad that things are looking up for you. It is hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel at times; bad times test you to the limit. So happy for you that you have the strength to endure. I wish you success in your new job.
You seem to have a vigor for life. Go for it and suck that marrow out of life.
PHG
wonderful news!
my sister in law started attending mass almost two months ago, and stopped bringing their two young children to the kh.
my brother lingered and attempted to bring them back into the fold.
Great News!
