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Worried about my Dad in hospital :(

by Simon in

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we visited angharad's parents at the weekend and got a call on sunday night from her sister who'd been called by my sister as they hadn't been able to contact us .... the message was not a happy one:.

my dad has had a heart attack and was in intensive care in hospital.. it was a while before i managed to speak to anyone over there with people probably out but i eventually spoke to his wife who says he's doing ok and has now been moved to the main ward but is being kept in as you would expect.

he may have to be moved to calgary for some investigation / tests.. he had heart surgery about 15 years ago and i think 4 of his 5 bypasses have failed so he has to take quite a bit of medicine for pain and stuff.

puppylove

Simon,

So sorry to hear about your dad. I think you should offer to take your sisters. I know from experience that times like these can help heal old wounds.

I will light a candle for your dad.

Donna

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Let's meditate on these scriptures

by YoYoMama in

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2 peter 2:1-22.

2 however, there also came to be false prophets among the people, as there will also be false teachers among you.

these very ones will quietly bring in destructive sects and will disown even the owner that bought them, bringing speedy destruction upon themselves.

puppylove

Speaking of meditation, how many of you used to zone off at the meetings?

I would make out my grocery list during the WT study.

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What is the narrow gate?

by YoYoMama in

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matthew 7:13-14 .

go in through the narrow gate; because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it.

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puppylove

Speaking of gates, does anyone watch "Ground Force" on BBC? This is the show where the re-do someone's garden in 2 days - as a surprise. It's one of my favorites.

I watch this on Saturday mornings now instead of peddling mags for the corporation.

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Daily Text - Eccl. 3:13

by YoYoMama in

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eccl.

3:13 "every man should eat and indeed drink and see good for all his hard work.

it is the gift of god.".

puppylove

Yes, this happy god destroyed thousands of persons in biblical times and is planning on killing billions more at some future "armageddon" date. He is jealous and vengeful. He deserves worship, dagnabbit!! He is going to kill the infant children of non-believers!!! No one will stand in his way. There will be no where to hide!!!

Worship him or else!

Yeah, this is the god that I want to serve.

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A Sad Example of JW Brainwashing /Twisted Thinking

by puppylove in

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this is the instant message conversation i had with my sister in law on friday.

it makes me so sad because i think that she in her heart recognizes the truth of what i am saying, but then the jw brainswashing takes over and she just stops thinking.. sorry it's so long!!.

c: you are very special to me.. c: i love you deeply.

puppylove

Hi Seven!! How nice of you to remember Ah ha in your answer too!

I tried to AIM her today, but she said she was too busy to talk. Oh well, I just keep praying (to what or whom I don't know LOL) that she will see the light. She really does have a good heart. She was my best friend before she became my SIL. She introduced me to my husband. How sad this all is.

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A Sad Example of JW Brainwashing /Twisted Thinking

by puppylove in

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this is the instant message conversation i had with my sister in law on friday.

it makes me so sad because i think that she in her heart recognizes the truth of what i am saying, but then the jw brainswashing takes over and she just stops thinking.. sorry it's so long!!.

c: you are very special to me.. c: i love you deeply.

puppylove

YoYoMama,

Thank you so much for your obviously well-thought out response.

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A Sad Example of JW Brainwashing /Twisted Thinking

by puppylove in

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this is the instant message conversation i had with my sister in law on friday.

it makes me so sad because i think that she in her heart recognizes the truth of what i am saying, but then the jw brainswashing takes over and she just stops thinking.. sorry it's so long!!.

c: you are very special to me.. c: i love you deeply.

puppylove

Actually, next time I think I'll just go on and on about how me and my hubby are. How were have soooo enjoyed going to our office holiday parties, the new friends we wen't out with on Sunday, the coctail party we are having on Sunday.

I want to show her that there is life outside of jw-dum.

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A Sad Example of JW Brainwashing /Twisted Thinking

by puppylove in

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this is the instant message conversation i had with my sister in law on friday.

it makes me so sad because i think that she in her heart recognizes the truth of what i am saying, but then the jw brainswashing takes over and she just stops thinking.. sorry it's so long!!.

c: you are very special to me.. c: i love you deeply.

puppylove

This is the Instant Message conversation I had with my sister in law on Friday. It makes me so sad because I think that she in her heart recognizes the truth of what I am saying, but then the JW brainswashing takes over and she just stops thinking.

Sorry it's so long!!

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C: you are very special to me.
C: i love you deeply

D: and you are to me

C: and dearly
C: i don't want to discuss religon with you...

D: then you have to make sure not to ask me questions about religion, or how i feel about this or that

C: or you offering how you feel about religon.
C: i cant change the way you feel, and i respect the decsion that you have made.

D: then i guess that will go both ways, you don't need to share any wt things with me

C:i will never give up that someday you will come back to Jehovah's organization. but that does not change the fact that you have made your feelings very clear.
C: im just not sure where we go from here?

D: and i will never stop praying that you leave them.
D: it's really up to you
D: i have a lot to share with you
D: on a day to day basis
D: if you only talk to me in hopes that someday i change my mind, then we don't have anything to talk about
D: if you talk to me to be my friend, then we have a lot to talk about

C: i don't know where to go with this.
C: it hurts me deeply to see that you attack jehovah's organization.
C: i know that i love you very much.

D: i don't mean to hurt you. i just wish that you would research using non-jw info - research jehovah's witnesses
D: the TRUTH should be able to stand up to any scruntiny

C: you see i dont need to because i did that before i dedicated my life to jehovah.
C: i research the truth.

D: what exactly did you read that was not printed by the witnesses?

C: i don't need any other information, i have read it all.

D: i'm sorry, i don't understand your answer to my question

C: jehovahs wittness live there life according to the scriptures, can you say that about any other religon.
C: do any other religons go to war?

D: no, i can't. actually, i can't say that about witnesses either
D: however,....
D: what did you read that was not printed by witnesses?

C: i have read much lituature from former jehovah's witnesses.
C: there views on religon...

D: really? what

C: how they were treated there beliefs in regards to the faithful and discreet slaves.
C: slave.
C: remember when i came in to the truth ******* was disfellwoshiped.
C: so i did my research.

D: i'm not trying to be mean, but i wondered if we have read the same things. do you remember what they were?

C: no i don't that was a very long time ago,

D: i see
D: it's strange, most of the people that i know of who read the history of jw's (not printed by jw's) end up leaving the organization
D: i was embarrased by some of the things i read.
D: ashamed that i belonged to that religion
D: i guess you didn't read anything like that

C: much of what i understood was alot of bitterness.. oh no i remember alot of information on the blood issue. what i thouht of it was people who did not want to be seperate from the world.

D: no, i'm talking about the vaccinations stuff in the awakes
D: all of the stuff they said about women

C: submission?

D: how they used to disfellowship a woman who was raped if "no one heard her scream"
D: this changed back and forth about 4 times
D: they used to say that vaccinations were "pus"
D: aluminum pots were bad
D: i could go on and on
D: embarrassing

C: and i am sure you could.. but am not embarrassed to be one of Jehovah's wittnesses, i am proud...

D: you are proud of the things i just told you?

C: yes i am proud even after the things you told me, because your information comes from those who have left the organaiztion, because there bitter, many views have changed because of jehovah god timetable.

D: no actually, my information comes from old copies of the awakes and watchtowers!! LOL

C: yes and many things will change again and again....when we recieve information from the faithful and discreet slave, and i am perfectly ok with that.

D: how can an organization claim to be from god, that god is giving them light, then change their minds on something?
D: does god change his mind?
D: is there some reason he would want people to die, be disfellowshipped, etc, and then change his mind about it?
D: did you know that until about 3 weeks ago, the WT was an affiliate member of the UN?
D: how can this be with what the WT teaches?
D: you see, it all doesn't add up

C: and you know this information how?

D: about the UN?

C: yes

D: saw a scan of the application and the letter the UN wrote saying that the WT had cancelled it membership
D: there was also a couple of newspapers articles about it.
D: bethel had a press release about it in the UK

C: oh i cant do this anymore................... i am not saying this informtion is incorrect or correct i am just so tired.

D: well, this just kills me too

C: why don't you guys just disassociate yourselfs.

D: why should we?
D: i don't play by their rules anymore

C: so if your this bitter disassociate yourselfs.

D: i'm not bitter
D: i just wish all those i love and care about would get out of that religion

C: so then disassociate yourselfs if you feel this way about it.

D: right now you are being like most other witnesses, closemided. not even willing to examine some of the things i just told you

C: i don't care what you have to say about the things you told me.
C: i don't care one bit.

D: you don't care one bit about what?

C: about the things you told me regarding your research..
C: its crap to me.
C: crap

D: that's too bad. i only pray that one day you will

C: bs

D: even the UN stuff?
D: is bs?

C: crap
C: crap
C: crap
C: does that tell you how i feel about it.
C: crap
C: it means nothing to me.
C: nothing
C: at all

D: well, i guess you are better at rationalizing and swallowing your conscience than i am

C: well what does your dad say about your feelings?

D: i told my dad that i don't believe it's the truth anymore
D: it makes him sad.
D: but he is my father and he STILL LOVES ME
D: just like a father should

C: what are you implying?
C: just like a father should?

D: that most natural feeling parents don't turn away from their kids
D: just because they don't share the same religious beliefs

C: do you think b**** has done this? (B**** is my hubby's mom)

D: yes

C: maybe you should research your own heart.
C: see two sides
C: not one

D: what do you mean

C: maybe you should examine the loss that everyone feels now that you have made this choice.

D: i see both sides, i understand the jw mind-set

C: the hurt the saddness the tears the heartache the pain.

D: the religion forces family members apart
D: i was raised in it remember?

C: no they don't

D: yes, it separates families

C: no it does not.
C: the people who leave make that seperation.
C: not the religon.

D: no, they don't
D: if it was not for the religion, families would not be against one another
D: it doens't happen in other religions

C: its like the book of revelation the dog returns to vomit.

D: excuse me?

C: jehovahs organization cleanse's the congergation..

D: doens't it make you sad to look at your co-workers and know that (based on your beliefs) God is going to kill them all?

D: all the children

C: yes all the children.

D: every other non-jw person on earth
D: were you sad then WTC collapsed?
D: more people are going to die than that, according to your religion

C: yes i was very sad, but we know that time and unforscence accurance will befall many.

D: all those hemophillacs who died before the "slave" said it was okay to have blood fractions
D: or before it was okay to have vaccines
D: or organ transplants

C: ok i have to stop now because this is making me sick to my stomach....

D: okay, it should make you sick

C: your making me sick.
C: sick to my stomach.

D: because you choose not to think about it
D: and i am sad because you are going through your life BELIEVING this

C: don't be sad for me i have the truth,,,,,,,,

D: i am, i'm sad for you, me and everyone

C: well in closing no b**** loves *****
C: very much

D: can't tell it by me

C: well i know she does........

Thats pretty much the end of the conversation. She hasn't sent me any more instant messages

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I want a family to celebrate Christmas with

by puppylove in

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i want a "normal" family.

i want to go to my mom's home on christmas.

i want to fight with my husband about whose house we are going to this year - his mom's or mine.

puppylove

Thanks Harmony. Big hugs right back to you ((((((hugs)))))))

I wish I knew why I feel so low. Hubby and I are trying to have our own traditions (we put on christmas music and decorated our tree) but I'm sooooo jealous of others with families.

I'll probably feel better tomorrow

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I want a family to celebrate Christmas with

by puppylove in

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i want a "normal" family.

i want to go to my mom's home on christmas.

i want to fight with my husband about whose house we are going to this year - his mom's or mine.

puppylove

I want a "normal" family. I want to go to my mom's home on Christmas. I want to fight with my husband about whose house we are going to this year - his mom's or mine. I want to exchange gifts with all my brothers and sisters. I want to send christmas gifts to my nephews and nieces. I want to sing carols with my dad. I want to eat turkey until I can't move. I want traditions. I want memories.

I want a non-jw family