in the corporate world the top leaders are of course responsible when something goes wrong in the organization they lead.
why should it be different in the religious area?
during its existence the watchtower society has printed all kinds of articles about who are chosen to become elders in the watchtower organization.. the sum of all of them is that these men are appointed by all the big shots in the universe starting with jehovah, which in turn delegates the handling of this matter to jesus which in turn works his wonders through a mystic entity called the holy spirit.
The thing that stands out to me in this article is this:
9. How reassuring to know that Jesus Christ provides leadership to his disciples today through the Governing Body, the holy spirit, and the angels!It's the Governing Body, then the holy spirit and the angels in their authority line up.
edited because i can't type worth a darn today.
this is from another board i belong to (not religion related).
this woman's husband just admitted he had a drug problem.
dh and i talked to our priest yesterday.
I think the question would be more like:
are you doing enough praying?
are you reading the magazines?
how are your hours in service?
This is their standard line of questioning no matter what your problem is. They are trained to think that doing more in "Jehovah's Service" will solve every problem...
depressed? go out in service, take your mind off of yourself
marital problems? go out in service with your spouse
problems with your kids? go out in service with your kids
drug/alcohol problem? go out in service with an elder
losing your joy? go out in service, it will bring you more joy
new to the congregation? go out in service with others in the hall
exhausted? go out in service, it will refresh you
It's the answer to every problem.
this is from another board i belong to (not religion related).
this woman's husband just admitted he had a drug problem.
dh and i talked to our priest yesterday.
This is from another board I belong to (not religion related). This woman's husband just admitted he had a drug problem
DH and I talked to our priest yesterday. DH was very honest and I actually learned alot. He (the priest) feels that we need to seek marriage counseling as well as substance abuse counseling. He explained that we need to face and work through my feelings of resentment and betrayal. He said that what I am feeling is very natural and that we can't just concentrate on the substance abuse part, or we will lose each other in the process. We can either seek him for marriage counseling or a professional counselor.
Compare the what the priest said to them to what a jw elder would say.
No dragging in the back room, no committees, nothing. Just good advice.
the story called (i think) "kissing hank's ass"?
i want to email to my sil as a brief explanation of why i don't believe in the bible anymore..
thanks!!!
The story called (I think) "Kissing Hank's Ass"? I want to email to my SIL as a brief explanation of why I don't believe in the bible anymore.
Thanks!!!!
some of these will surprise you: i have captured nearly all watchtower society corporations in the united states.
i have placed those of greatest interest at the top.
watchtower bible & tract society of new york inc brooklyn, ny headquarters.
Most major corporations don't have this many sub-corporations! It seems to me that the only time I read about this many sub-corporations is when a company has been caught laundering money....
kingdom ministry school for congregational elders.
for the 2002 service year .
hi folks!.
I can't find it on Kazaa. :(
it would have taken more much more time to tell it all.
he told us the meeting would began as soon as the other brothers arrived.
danni: i will give you two.
Had to chime in here.
Danni: Thank you for your bravery. I now wish that I had called some elders on the carpet for their past behavior. I personally know 3 women (they are grown now - pre-teen at the time) in the same hall who were molested by the same person. Still an elder. I have done nothing about it. Reading your story gives me the incentive to stir up the pot for this elder.
I agree with Red Horse Women, every little chip counts. In this day of easy information access, the more we let others know of the damage done by this "religious" organization, the better. They may not fall in my lifetime, but the will fall.
BTW to Joel: Elders meetings and judicial meetings took place all the time during regular meetings in California. Some elders never sat in their seat the whole meeting.
BTW to (I can't remember): The language coming of some elder's mouths would make a sailor blush. My dad would come home so upset with other elders because of their bad language (including F*** in one heated meeting).
BTW to Yardif: As if she'll give you her address! Some stranger over the internet. You could be a stalker. Whatever.
i live in northern california.
most of the conventions and get togethers i have seen posted are in the midwest.
am i all alone out here?
Grew up in Burbank, moved to Orange County, and then moved to NYC. Anybody from Starlight, Buena Vista or Rancho Vista Congs? How about Dana Point?
after last week's post regarding how many people you helped become a jw, i thought it would be fun to see how many people you've helped become apostate.. i received a phone call from norway about an hour ago, ( a poster on this board) who tells me that i influenced his decision to leave the jws.
(thanks, i)we've never met, only been email buddies.
the written word is powerful, and many do read these forums.. hopefully, i'll be able to speak to his dyed in the wool jdub girlfriend, but for now i'm satan incarnate as far as she's concerned.[8>].
First of all: Hi Obed!!! I miss wit.net I was trying to get as many out there as I could (while pretending to be a good dub... hehe)
Lets see: Hubby, my little sister and brother, still working on the other brother and my mom. Mom and brother no longer attend meetings. My dad is a lifer, unfortunately.
my cousin, sharon, who died in september.......was disfellowshipped three years ago.
her brother is still a witness, and wrote a thank you card to an elder in the congregation here.
this elder and his wife came to visit sharon a few days before she died, and before she started to lose her ability to make sense when she talked.
Mulan,
So sorry to hear of this fresh new hurt. How painful this must be in addition to her death.
Donna
ps. What was that question from readers about?
