Hey, EndofMysteries I have been seing her for about 2 years, she's given me rides, our daughters played together and so on but I am certain that I am only a "study", a possible JW in project for her, so I don't think she'll ever talk to me after she knows... which is ok.
Posts by Sofi
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How to break up a "friendship" with a JW who is (still!) trying to convert me
by Sofi inok, so i never had the courage to tell this people i was df'd a long time ago... just kept "studying" here and there because i felt lonely and they were so persistent.
last time i saw this woman, we had a heated argument (was more like a monologue) where i told them why i think the wts is wrong on the blood subject.
she is still sending me texts about when is she going to see me again to "study" (bringing in the "closer": a regular pioneer we both know).
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Got Accosted by 2 JW Women While Pumping Gas Yesterday - Weird
by flipper inabsolutely weird.
minding my own business while pumping gas - this 60 year old short jw lady with fluffed bun styled 60's hair and her 30 year old attractive 5 ' 10 inch jw lady partner came straight up to me as i'm pumping.
they picked the wrong hombre .
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Sofi
Wow, flipper, good job! Hey, I want to do what you just did, that's awesome! Maybe I'll think of something like what you said when have them trying to talk to me
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Bragging among JWs...
by ohnightdivine inposting about the wonderful preaching day on fb... posting about what they ate for lunch, snacks, dinner after preaching... posting about rubbing elbows with the co, do, etc... posting about getting into pioneer school... swooning over the latest gadgets, right after the meeting... being obsessed about what clothes to wear during the assemblies.... etc.. etc... being proud of having an sp, bethelite, etc relative... being unable to take pride in academic, secular, or other normal achievements leads to the above, i guess.. and it's not at all different from how "worldly" people behave these days... .
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Sofi
While I was in, the internet was the biggest enemy. It was always discouraged in meetings to use the computer, unless it was for work or homework... but how things have changed and there's a jw.org so no more "the internet is devil's tool" type of thing. Now you can brag about your "theocratic work" online as well.
I remember the days before the assemblies and memorials. I didn't know anybody who was worries about what Jesus had to go through to give us salvation, what his sacrifice meant or even what the assembly was going to be about. Just thinking about what clothes to wear, if I have shoes that go with that dress, make up and do everything I could to SHINE, yes, shine because all of the sisters are there in competition to get an "spiritual" brother to look at them and start conversations. So, yea, I don't know how JW end up missing the point but in the JW world, appearances do count.
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How to break up a "friendship" with a JW who is (still!) trying to convert me
by Sofi inok, so i never had the courage to tell this people i was df'd a long time ago... just kept "studying" here and there because i felt lonely and they were so persistent.
last time i saw this woman, we had a heated argument (was more like a monologue) where i told them why i think the wts is wrong on the blood subject.
she is still sending me texts about when is she going to see me again to "study" (bringing in the "closer": a regular pioneer we both know).
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Sofi
Ok, so I never had the courage to tell this people I was df'd a long time ago... just kept "studying" here and there because I felt lonely and they were so persistent. Last time I saw this woman, we had a heated argument (was more like a monologue) where I told them why I think the WTS is wrong on the blood subject. She is still sending me texts about when is she going to see me again to "study" (bringing in the "closer": a regular pioneer we both know). I'm sick of being a phony and just stick around for cheap friendship. I just might use this as an opportunity to plant doubts in her, about "The truth". She is so numb, though, I don't think that anything I could say could actually work. So, I was thinking I can: a. leave all of the WT information I still have on her doorstep and tell her I don't believe in any of it; b. I could send her a text telling her I am df'd (that will make her dissappear forever); c. I could be a "difficult" student so that, every chance I get, I can try to uncover the watchtower veil off her face (but I don't know if I have the energies for that, she is truly a robot, doesn't even have an opinion for anything, besides what the "slave" recommends.
I've been doing a lot of reading on the WT (Barbara Harrison: Visions of Glory). Even though I have been df'd for so many years, I always assumed I'd go back at some point, and felt guilty for being out. I even thought about going back about a month ago or so. But after reading what I've read, no way, I'm never going back... There is just too much dirt under the WTS carpet, too much deception. I feel so betrayed... but it is always better to know.
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Temp Bethelites
by A question inhas anyone here served as a temporary bethelite?
what was it like for you at the time?.
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Sofi
The brothers with the colorful underwear... that was hilarious
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How Did You View The Elders?
by minimus ini know some who truly believed they were "gifts in men".
they needed their approval and wanted to be well spoken of by them.. i know some who can't stand elders and regard them as pests, always looking for some dirt on somebody.. i know some who liked maybe one or two but regarded the majority as unqualified.. how did you view the elders??
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Sofi
I really liked a couple of them, since I thought they were decent people to start with. One of them was a gem: High School teacher by choice, Civil Engineer by career. None of his family "in the truth" so he was very down to earth and empathetic. He always treated me very good. The other one was a complete, total a$$hole!! He was 'sent' to us by our 'loving' C.O as our cong had a bad reputation (lots of young people being young) so he was sent to put our cong in shape. He would go after df anybody that would not seem too zealous. It was like a dictatorship after that... he was authoritarian at his home and in the cong. He was the one that would go out of his way and instead of being home with his family he'd be listening to gossip from other jw trying to get his 2 witnesses...
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Former Elders? What did you not like about serving as an elder?
by JakeM2012 ina few of my pet peeves were:.
the po/cobe knowing that he needed to have an elders meeting after the meeting but not telling any other elders.
humm, but his wife knew.
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Sofi
I wans't and elder (of course, I'm a woman!) but just wanted to say I loved what DJS said "The second thing I hated most was the extreme egos amongst the elders. Most were uneducated and their only claim to fame in life was their eldership.... in reality almost all of them were nasty, dark, egomaniacal little men who thought they and their families were somehow better or more priviliged than the rank-in-file.
Sounds like the exact description of one of the elder we had in my ex congregation. Great description of the profile! I just feel sorry for the elders that actually were decent and tried to be compassionate and caring... I just remember the nasty one talking during my commitee and the nice one just tearing and staying quiet...
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new book printed in Germany, not wallkill-why?
by factfinder ini just recieved a copy of the new book "imitate their faith" and notice it was printed in the german branch, not at wallkill.. why would they ship books here (the us) from germany instead of printing them in wallkill?.
the new tracts were printed in canada.. is something going on at the wallkill printery that would would hinder book production there?.
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Sofi
I didn't pay that much attention at the convention, but they didn't mention anything about that... If you go to their website, they just say they are building the new watchtower headquarters somewhere upstate NY, since they're selling the Brooklyn building...but I bet you knew that already
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Where In the Bible Does It Say To Hate People Who Leave The Organization? Apostates and the District Convention Theme of Hating Them!
by AuntConnie ini am back from bakersfield and i can say it was the best district convention ever!
the end is coming soon, a few of the annointed were speaking about 2014 possibly being the year that jehovah would destroy all the hateful apostates!
the focus of this convention was not on love or the message of the good news of the kingdom.
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Sofi
2014? Another apocaliptic date? They better not miss this time, or they are going to lose a lot of jw... it's crazy they just make this $hit up! And yes,, it's so sad and anti christian their view of disfellowshipped. As my husband said, they would have stonned Mary Madgalene and disfellowshipped Paul.
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Was Your Leaving The Witnesses A Very Gradual Process Or A Quick One?
by minimus infor me, it took many years.. even when i would read all the changes over the years from the "truth", i still would ignore it and "wait on jehovah" and try to be a positive force in the congregation.. eventually, i just couldn't take it anymore and resigned as an elder, and slowly but surely made my fade.. what about you?
were you out, in a short or longer time?
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Sofi
In my case, gradual. It took about 6 months from the last meeting I attended. I got the elder's visits, which at the beginning were just "we haven't seen you, are you ok? That progressed into: "We don't know what to do in your case, we had contacted the C.O to help us make a decision" So, I was dating a no jw at the time and like in an apartment building with my personal jw gossiper (the lady upstairs, which didn't like me since I rejected his son's efforts to be my bf... but that's another story) Anyway, she would be the eyes and ears of the elders... I got so disgusted, and being young, I didn't feel like dealing with the stress of them visiting me continuously. So, I told them to do what they wanted. And so, I got a letter sayng I was df'. I have to say not everyone stopped talking to me. Two elders never gave up on me. Some "sisters" would not give me dirty looks, but they would just smiled at me when they saw me. I loved and still love the people there... if they would reform some of their doctrines, I would even consider going back, but I don't think "the light" is going to progress that far... the "slave" use them to whip people and keep them controlled.