Cofty your an Atheist right?
I am a Christian!
Wish you the best! I will always be a follower of Jesus! :-)
it's obvious the bible is very clear on a actual hell of fire.
"cursed into the eternal fire with the devil and his angels", rev.20:15.
"lake of fire", rev.21:8 "fire and brimstone".
Cofty your an Atheist right?
I am a Christian!
Wish you the best! I will always be a follower of Jesus! :-)
it's obvious the bible is very clear on a actual hell of fire.
"cursed into the eternal fire with the devil and his angels", rev.20:15.
"lake of fire", rev.21:8 "fire and brimstone".
Cofty said, "I find it very disturbing that christians like Sarahsmile can be so carefree about the prospect of billions of humans suffering unimaginable torment every minute of every day for all eternity."
I did not state anything like that!
No I will not forget people like Hitler!
Cofty said,"How can you worship and adore a deity that would torture billions of ordinary people for all eternity for simply rejecting your superstitious."
But I never said that my God was like this or Jesus,YOU are making this claim all by yourself.
I say Jesus healed and performed miracles! I love YHWH and Jesus! Jesus has bigger plan for salvation.
Take care! It is a moot point.
Jam I do not believe how these other churches believe and I got my own personal take on it!
Wish you the best with family members in different religions. It must be interesting at get togethers!
i definitely look like a worldly person by jw standards... however i went to my old hall because they are remodelling and they are in the final p[hase.
it was not on purpose.
i had bnusiness on the street and happened to drive past.
Maybe you should call your father and explain to him what happened. Let him know that you wanted to see him.
it's obvious the bible is very clear on a actual hell of fire.
"cursed into the eternal fire with the devil and his angels", rev.20:15.
"lake of fire", rev.21:8 "fire and brimstone".
What about people like Hitler?
it's obvious the bible is very clear on a actual hell of fire.
"cursed into the eternal fire with the devil and his angels", rev.20:15.
"lake of fire", rev.21:8 "fire and brimstone".
I believe that there will be a lake of fire and eternal hell.
If the bible say there a special place for wicked, so be it.
Death seems so nice for Hitlers in the world. Hopefully there will be tormenting day and night.
It could just mean cleansing the earth and make it new again but maybe not.
If there are a couple of ways of viewing something it makes me doubt JW,SDA,Baptist, and Catholic doctrines.
Basically it is not something, I think too much about I leave "after life" to Jesus.
http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/14122-an-interesting-fact-and-statement-by-our-spirit-directed-faithful-slave/.
No such thing! Why do you care?
witnesses brag that they are the most honest people in the world!.
but, they teach their followers that it's ok to lie if someone is not "entitled" to know the truth.. .
But, they teach their followers that it's ok to lie IF someone is not "entitled" to know the truth.
Not when I was growing up! 60s and 70s! Things sure did change!
They might teach elders to lie or cover up truths but they would break that rule!
Crazy religion!
witnesses brag that they are the most honest people in the world!.
but, they teach their followers that it's ok to lie if someone is not "entitled" to know the truth.. .
YOU can not lie to elders but the elders can lie to YOU!
Typical JC meeting:
Right off what is said in the room will stay confidential, lie
We,elders, are here to help you, deceptive.
The files,notes,are sealed in envelops and placed in the KH vault to maintan confidentiality. What vault. lol!
Only the orginial elders only need to know why one is dfd! lol!
Sorry after YOU were reinstated,I called one of the original elders and he told me why YOU were dfd. I just want to help you! lie to cover up a previous lie.
Elders leave brief cases out so family members can find notes! lie. Delbrately carrying confidential information so others can find it! Deceptive to all parties involved! Blame family members for finding out! Breach of,a promise, verbal contract with parties is a lie.
how could the passover be on the same day as feast of unleaven bread?
matthew 26:17 says it was the first day of unleaven cakes/bread and they were asking where to prepare the passover.
but leviticus says the passover was on the fourteenth and the feast of unleaven bread/cakes was on the fifteenth, next day after passover.
I am just adding this so I can read everything together! Enjoy the topic.
English Standard Version (ESV)
12 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt,2 “This month shall be for you the beginning of months. It shall be the first month of the year for you. 3 Tell all the congregation of Israel that on the tenth day of this month every man shall take a lamb according to their fathers' houses, a lamb for a household. 4 And if the household is too small for a lamb, then he and his nearest neighbor shall take according to the number of persons; according to what each can eat you shall make your count for the lamb. 5 Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male a year old. You may take it from the sheep or from the goats, 6 and you shall keep it until the fourteenth day of this month, when the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill their lambs at twilight.[ a ]
7 “Then they shall take some of the blood and put it on thetwo doorposts and the lintel of the houses in which they eat it. 8 They shall eat the flesh that night, roasted on the fire; with unleavened bread and bitter herbs they shall eat it. 9 Do not eat any of it raw or boiled in water, but roasted, its head with its legs and its inner parts. 10 And you shall let none of it remain until the morning; anything that remains until the morning you shall burn. 11 In this manner you shall eat it: with your belt fastened, your sandals on your feet, and your staff in your hand. And you shall eat it in haste. It is theLord's Passover. 12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt that night, and I will strike all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and on all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgments: I am the Lord. 13 The blood shall be a sign for you, on the houses where you are. And when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and no plague will befall you to destroy you, when I strike the land of Egypt.
14 “This day shall be for you a memorial day, and you shall keep it as a feast to the Lord; throughout your generations, as a statute forever, you shall keep it as a feast. 15 Seven days you shall eat unleavened bread. On the first day you shall remove leaven out of your houses, for if anyone eats what is leavened, from the first day until the seventh day,that person shall be cut off from Israel. 16 On the first day you shall hold a holy assembly, and on the seventh day a holy assembly. No work shall be done on those days. But what everyone needs to eat, that alone may be prepared by you. 17 And you shall observe the Feast of Unleavened Bread, for on this very day I brought your hosts out of the land of Egypt. Therefore you shall observe this day, throughout your generations, as a statute forever. 18 In the first month, from the fourteenth day of the month at evening, you shall eat unleavened bread until the twenty-first day of the month at evening. 19 For seven days no leaven is to be found in your houses. If anyone eats what is leavened, that person will be cut off from the congregation of Israel, whether he is a sojourner or a native of the land. 20 You shall eat nothing leavened
just to share a little about me:.
i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .
makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .