Yeah you can only handle the meetings for so long after the fact. It makes me wonder if the majority of the elders and JWs know when people are ready to leave.
Take care
yet another update on my story:.
for various reasons, i still have to go to all meetings.
(i am looking to change my personal circumstances to allow me to live somewhere else so i can fade easier)... i actually don't mind going to the mid-week meeting since i can comment on the bible reading, and slowly but surely i can introduce little seeds of cognitive dissonance... making it seem like i am super interested in what the interlinear says or that people can actually go and check out the manuscripts for themselves online!
Yeah you can only handle the meetings for so long after the fact. It makes me wonder if the majority of the elders and JWs know when people are ready to leave.
Take care
i had a business meeting this evening, hubby elected to stay home with the kiddies (he could have come with me), as he said "you need a break, have some time alone'...so considerate...so i thought.
upon returning home, he had popped one of the new dvd's released at the convention, don't know the title, of some young brother who gets fired from a job and goes for a drink with a buddy from work.
it is very annoying that he pulls these little tricks on me, act like he is doing me some favor or being considerate then pulling one of these jwisms...like the time he booked an appointment with a physchiatrist, and he wanted me to go along to discuss his insecurities in our marriage because i had learned ttatt...he conveniently left out the part where the doctor is a jw.
I wonder what else he is pulling that your not aware? Your Red Flags:" ...like the time he booked an appointment with a physchiatrist, and he wanted me to go along to discuss his insecurities in our marriage because I had learned TTATT"
What is he trying to pull have you analyzed. He could use that therapist against you in child custody battle.
Here is my suggestion, next time he wants to watch the children go see a divorce attorney.
to those who don't believe in this shyt:you'd better not post here .
ok...so you ever used it?what experiences do you have?were you able to summon a demon?what did he tell you?what did you see?i'm really curious and i wanna try it!.
Darth Vader! That shadows going to give me nightmares! He looks like he can see me with those eyes! Creepy! That is what I get for looking close. I am going to look at Shadow again.
Cold Steel watcha trying to do? Scare me to death! If I die I am going to post here.
alshello.
i'm a practicing jw.
finally decided to create an account to see whether you could all help me.. so i am engaged to this wonderful wonderful man and in three months time we'll be married.
.........ere embarassed and you thought there was no difference between the sin of your bpreferably one who is elderly, old fashioned and compassionate. It may be that he is too embarrassed to go into further details and will agree with you and leave it at that. He may also see how this has truelly affected you and your own feelings have been in such a state that you are repentant. |
Hey Lisentener is not right do not talk to any more elders. Elders do not care and are not there to help soothe your conscience! They are their to keep people out and forplay is disfellowshiping! Burden God with your sins! You and your guy need to be strong and wait out the three months. Do not confess anything else out of guilt. These feeling your having are emotions that is ALL! and they will pass and you both will be happy. You look back on all this and laugh about it some day.
Hope I understand this next part: Did you state that during your wedding ceremony when it comes to your vows that the elder marrying you is go to throw in another question? You wrote: met with the elder who's giving the wedding talk and he "warned" us ther's going to be courship conduct question.
Wew, no wonder your so stressed out! That is awful and none of his business! What a mess! Does he ask all the people he marries a CONDUCT question? What else will he ask you that you do not know? or is that the problem? He is not trust worthy and that is a question from someone who has wicked suspicions! It is in the bible and he in the wrong. I remember attending a lot of JW weddings and there was never a conduct question. Sorry but you need to ditch that elder and get someone else because that conduct question is wicked looking honest, it is deceptive. Wicked suspicion: the act or an instance of suspecting something wrong without proof or on slight evidence. It does not matter if your innocent or guilty by asking you that question he suspects forplay which he knows every couple does! Sorry to say by their fruits you should know them.
Wish I could find the scripture for you.
Take your sins to God because elders do not have the power to forgive.
alshello.
i'm a practicing jw.
finally decided to create an account to see whether you could all help me.. so i am engaged to this wonderful wonderful man and in three months time we'll be married.
Do you realize that when two people are engaged that you enter into a verbal contract. Mary and Joseph entered into a contract that would take divorcement and they were engaged. Do you realize that young girls Mary age at 13 would move in with Josephs family prior to marriage? I am sure they probably got pretty close with out sex.
Now, tell your guy that he has entered into a contract as good as marriage. Marriage is a ceremony to express your commitment toward each other. Just acting like a good JW here. If it bothers his conscience then you both should stop what your doing. He can not have it both ways with you.
It really sounds like you might be ready for marriage but your fiancee is not. Mature men do not call elders after the facts because they know they are going to marry YOU. However your lover really is taking you down. He wants out and that is his excuse his so call trained conscience is just an excuse. Also, most the JW mess around before marriage they just do not admit it! You need to listen to these folks here and convince your boyfriend to keep the elders out of the bedroom. How will you ever trust him?
Okay if you want to study more about how JW doctrines, how come your not looking it up on the JW. org library? I just typed in sex before marriage?
I think you already know the answers of what the JW teach.
My views are if two people are bound(starting at engagement) and they get carried away with each other it is not a sin let them marry. It becomes fonication when another lust for someone other than the person in this martial contract, engagement.
Fornication is between two people who are not in a marital contract. Did Mary commit adultry? Why was she accused? How could an engaged girl commit adultry? Would it not be fornication? Mary and Joseph were not married when Mary was pregnant, so it would be fornication? See it is a commitment between two people at the engagement. If you had sex with you betrothed is it fornication? NO! only if you had sex with with him during your boyfriend stage which would make you both fornicators and nk contract. If you had sex with someone else during your engaged stage would it be fornication? No,it is adultry and your not married yet. LOL. Granted you are not married in the legal term but in Gods eyes you both are bound. Bound let no man come between the two. Including elders!
That should help. Go in peace and just get married without guilt.
to those who don't believe in this shyt:you'd better not post here .
ok...so you ever used it?what experiences do you have?were you able to summon a demon?what did he tell you?what did you see?i'm really curious and i wanna try it!.
Darn I am reading this at 11pm and now I am scared. You guys really scared me!
i was recently chastised here for saying that i respected my wife's steadfast loyalty to her god.
suppose you were a medical assistant and your doctor/supervisor told you to hang blood on a witness patient?
zero respect?.
No! But your case if I recall you were worried about your wife in case of an emergency giving birth.
so how do you get away from all of this?read read read.. set goals.
lots of goals.. make lots of lists of where you want to be in 5 years.
the people you want to meet.. the places you want to visit.. learn a skill.
Good thing God is laughing with us!
now that i have fully awaken from this nightmare cult, it pains me to know that i have wasted most of my life.
when i was young i was a very driven boy wanting to accomplish all sorts of things.
i smart kid and an athletic one too.
We just got screwed and no matter what it just sucks! Future, never could plan or see any. I can not plan for three months from now, lol.
Wordly people our age some really planned. How could that happen? We were all suppose to be living the perfect lives in paridise! Those wordly people were part of Satan organization and they were suppose to have awful unfullillrd lives, terrible marriges, disrespectful children, drunks and drug addicts, marriges with affairs. Seems like the oppsite is happenng. I see successful people.
Raised as a JW, I asked my sibings if they could ever see their future?The answer is No.I never could and I know it has something to do with early childhood.
I will pray that you find a Godhead religion that teaches the importance of education first before marriage. Some of these churches are helping kids with self esteem. Godheads the opposite of JWs.
first time i ever heard anyone say there was 'proof' of noah's flood.. very interesting,.
showed a trawler, where the team dredges regularly in the north sea - for animal bones, massive land animal bones, mammoths.. he said, originally, the bones were sent for analysis, and the dr stated, they were proof of noah's flood.. the north sea area was a land mass of dry grazing lands.
and it was very similar to africa.. many bones were found in london, of lions, hippos, etc ... when they were digging out the underground.. .
Lost
I believe in the bible and enjoy anything about the flood. Did not see this documentary.
To be honest with you the bible is proof enough that the flood happened but I am a faithful believer. Most archeologists and historians are not going to close the door on the possibilities. Most scientist probably would not say it did not happen even if they were atheist because there no evidence one way or the other just questions and theories.
I think I would enjoy watching this documentary to watch for the Dr. comments.
Good and
Thanks!