and the comments from the likes of jesse jackson and mike tyson and other inciters..
I am Not sick of Black Dalilah
I am Not sick of Natali Wood
I am Not sick of John-Benett Ramsey
I am Not sick of Lacy Peterson
I am Not sick of Elizabeth Smart
I am Not sick of Natali Halloway
I am Not sick of Susan Powell
I am Not scik of Trayvon Martin
I am Sick of North Korean leader, Kim Jung Eun
I am sick of Hitler
I am sick of the Governing Body
I am sick of my misspelling.
he is one of my favorite posters, i look him up from time to time.
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@djeggnog, You crack me up. You are so ornery just like my oldman.
Hello Outlaw,
i've just been catching up on some of the posts that people made about this case and i am appalled at the blatant racism demonstrated by certain individuals.. yes, you are entitlted to your opinion ... but at some point your opinion needs to be kept locked inside your ignorant biggoted empty skull and not come out of your stupid fat mouth.
it especially shouldn't be posted on my forum.. such racism will not be tollerated here.. i also would like to publicly apologise to outlaw for not being on top of this earlier and making sure that he wasn't lumped in with these despicable people for simply pointing out how out-of-line their behavior was.
sorry my friend - you did not deserve that and i understand completely why you have had a break from the site..
Hi Berengaria,
i've just been catching up on some of the posts that people made about this case and i am appalled at the blatant racism demonstrated by certain individuals.. yes, you are entitlted to your opinion ... but at some point your opinion needs to be kept locked inside your ignorant biggoted empty skull and not come out of your stupid fat mouth.
it especially shouldn't be posted on my forum.. such racism will not be tollerated here.. i also would like to publicly apologise to outlaw for not being on top of this earlier and making sure that he wasn't lumped in with these despicable people for simply pointing out how out-of-line their behavior was.
sorry my friend - you did not deserve that and i understand completely why you have had a break from the site..
@Band on the Run, said, 'Law and order is a strong civil rights issue.' ....'The defendant is innocent until proven guilty.'
I am a firm beliver of what you said. I agree with you 100%. It's totally a different topic. I was simply stating that before give any opinion to a such touch subject one(in general not any particular person I was pointing at) need to really understand its very natural of the involvement. If you feel I was belittling you it wasn't my intention at all.
@AllTime Jeff, I have read your story from another site. I am very sorry what happened to you in Cameroon. I am so glad you got yourself out of all that. Thankyou for the story.
i've published part one of a three part series about the menlo park kh scandal.
http://ex-jw.com/menlo-park-elder-tells-all-1.
this has been a tough one for me.. the original federal case was dismissed in january.
Juan, I trully appreciate you for this thread and all your hard work. This thread helped awakening my spouse who I have been working on for last 3 months. I will send you pm later. I am in hurry get out the door for the class.
i've just been catching up on some of the posts that people made about this case and i am appalled at the blatant racism demonstrated by certain individuals.. yes, you are entitlted to your opinion ... but at some point your opinion needs to be kept locked inside your ignorant biggoted empty skull and not come out of your stupid fat mouth.
it especially shouldn't be posted on my forum.. such racism will not be tollerated here.. i also would like to publicly apologise to outlaw for not being on top of this earlier and making sure that he wasn't lumped in with these despicable people for simply pointing out how out-of-line their behavior was.
sorry my friend - you did not deserve that and i understand completely why you have had a break from the site..
Can any indivisual who's never been parent to a child, no matter how intelligent and well meant he/she is, trully have a blanced opinion on child rearing let alone offering a counsel to parents what and how it should be and so forth? (No wonder JWs kids don't get any real help since their parents are counseled/directed by CO,DO, the GB, most of whom never raised child). So then,
How many of you have exprienced racism or are victims of racism or are victims of hate crime? I do not mean like you got your feeling hurt for being overlooked or excluded from invitations or bullied by loosers (alothough there's no excuse for bullying and it's dead wrong ) or some misunderding or heart aches caused by self infliction or suffering with poor me syndrom etc.
Someone on this thread said let the court decide.(underline mine) Would you have the same casual attitude if he/she is your own or if he/she were you? (If latter, you can't speak out for yourself since you were dead. And I am not pointing out this particular incident but in generalization)
I used to suffered greatly from the racism by both non-JWs and JWs. To be honest, JWs were the main source of my suffering in this regard. And then One day it dawned on me! The racism is really a bad abstacle of its possesors and the racists alone should suffer its consquence not its victims. Bascially it's their problem not mine. Why should I suffer over their problem? They need work on their own issue while I work on my own, which is plenty.
One thing I am not going to do is give my 2 cents on topics on social issues unless I have been in their shoes.( I can offer my sympathy if anything or try to be in their shoes at least. You see, I used to persecute apostates by wholeheartedly supporting the bOrg. Now I am in their shoes. Boy did I ever know what I was talking about)
I called on an apostate while engaged in door to door service around 1995. (I heard about him but never knew who he was. I was new in the area.) He answered the door with COC in his hand and suggested the book on me. I immidiatly realized who he was and who the author of the book was. I treated both him and the book as if they were the most loathsome thing I've ever seen. I am finally awakened and read COC recently. I visited him and his wife a week ago, some 17 years later, and apologized him not only for my action toward him but all the persecution that he endured from local JWs for 30 years.
I would also like to sincerely apologize all of you ex/inactive/current JWs who have been persecuted/suffered for following your conscious.
@Bubblegum, How I wish I could agree with you!
I was an athiest before converted to JW. I was in for 25 years. I would have been better off as an athiest or anything else but JW in Nigeria, in
Darfur, in Malawi, in Eastern Europe, in Asia, in any Continent.
There are both good and bad people in all orgranizations. But no one would hurt and persecute another human being like JWs would. Yes, I said JWs as whole and as an indivisual not only the GB and the elders. The GB and the elders could not have accomplished any of their inhuman abusiveness without their foot solders' tireless support and ever loyaly carrying out the commentments. They are engaging in two hunting activities for their leaders: the recruiting of outsiders in digusing their true colors and the witch hunting of insiders in the name of ORGARNIZATION.
I would rather being killed in the hands of the above you mentioned than being eaten alive slowly by the most vicious methods of JWs. They are working against HUMANITY.
I am not a hater. I am simply but sadly sharing the FACT from my very own experinces. I do NOT hate them(ok most of them) though but I feel very sorry for them for not knowing what they are doing (I want to believe that. John 16:2). I pray for them(Not always easy). I can't express enough how grateful I am that I am out of that darkness and not being part of their inhuman persecution toward their very own, including their own blood and flesh. Besides, no longer campaigning Global Genocides. Hitler and his foot soldiers' campaign resulted in at least 12 million lives in gas chamber. It's horrifying me that that's what in essence I had been doing in exaltation.
Are JWs any better/nicer/kinder/more loving.......? I think the most of them started out with such qualities but their doctrins turn them into unloving, judemental, self-righteous, arrogant, merciless, no natural affection, paranoid....... longer you are in worse you will beome.
what does the bible really teach?
using only the bible, can you prove - 1. who the 'other sheep' are?
2. the context of john 10:16?
2.The context of John 10:16 reads:' "And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also I must bring, and they will become one flock,one shepherd.' Compare it with Ephesians 3:6 which reads:' that people of the nations should be joint heirs and fellow members of the body and partakers with us of the promise in union with Christ Jesus through the good news.'
At John 10:16, Jesus was speaking to his Jewish listners(who are in this fold) that there are also others who are not in this fold(non-jews) that he must bring and they(both jews and non jews, that is gentiles)will become one flock.
Interestingly, Ephesians 3:6 renders that 'people of the nations(gentiles) should be joint heirs and fellow members of the body[therefore become one flock] and partakers ......in union with Christ..
Even more interestingly, last week Watchtower Study article( w1/15, 2012, study during week of March 26-April 1, ph 13 on page 29) explains,
'Those invited to be in the new covenant were alsoto be anointed with holy spirit.(2 Cor. 1:21) Faithful Jewsand then, Gentiles were included.(Eph. 3:5,6).(bold and underline mine)[ironically the WT contracditing itself unwittingly, I believe this same study article will provide at least half of your questions. But make sure read cited scriptures and their context. I love it when the WT studied for you and only to support opponants' points. The WT study articles, to me, have proved to be the best source of discrediting its own doctrins]
Now we can easily draw the answers of the First and Second questions,
1. who the 'other sheep' are: Gentiles
2.the context of John 10:16: the blessings of the Christ' good news will be extended to ' people of the nations(gentiles).' No where these scriptures are pointing 2 different callings, namly, one, havenly and the other, earthly. It's only happening if someone decideds to interprit it to fit his/hers own understanding.
dear heavenly father above heaven and earth it is through your son christ jesus/yeshua we pray.
thank you for the hope you have given us through the life of your son.
please strengthen us and help us to do your will.
Amen
