Posts by Bobcat

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The Spirits of God

by Stephen Levi in

revelation, chapter 1, 4: john to the seven churches which are in asia: grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven spirits which are before his throne;.

revelation, chapter 3, 1: and unto the angel of the church in sardis write; these things saith he that hath the seven spirits of god, and the seven stars; i know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

revelation, chapter 4, 5: and out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven spirits of god.

Bobcat

I'm with Perry. My curiosity is piqued but I'm not sure what direction this is going.

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Great Crowd Survivors will be Maimed, Lame, and have one eye

by Quarterback in

it's official.

the saturday convention program has a talk.

it is titled arrive maimed, lame, and with one eye.

Bobcat

I'm guessing it is a talk about getting rid of anything that might keep one from entering into life based on Matthew 18:8, 9.

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Keep Seeking First God's Kingdom - RC 2014 - Sunday

by OwnAccord in

a world without satan (revelation 20:2,3,7,10).

romans 12- joy in the kingdom hope.

the spirit.. demonstration: family worship.

Bobcat

Bats said:

Something is not right: By the year 2014 JCs Kingdom rule is either only 900 years or it will be 1,100 years long.

See here

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"Keep Seeking First God's Kingdom! Regional Convention 2014 - releases and info

by OwnAccord in

info from someone at the regional convention:.

(sorry about the format).

matthew 6:33 keep on seeking first the kingdom.

Bobcat

For reference:

2014 DC notes - Friday, Saturday, Sunday

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One way could be showing how absurd their concept is when trying to answer the question, Blondie.

by jam in

jw
friends

Bobcat

Jam:

"Angels marrying women"

Just as another possibility in the account - The term "wives" in Genesis 6:2 could also be rendered "women" or "concubines" or "female slaves." Most translators seem to render it "wives" (see here; possibly because the verse uses the verb "took"), but the language does not require that. Also, nothing in the context or any related verse (such as 1Pe 3:20; 2Pe 2:4; Jude 6) actually says that these angels lived as humans.

The term "have relations" (Hebrew yā-ḇō-’ū; Strong's 935) in Genesis 6:4 is literally "come in." This is the only place that the word is used in a sexual sense. One Jewish Torah/Commentary (I didn't write down which; I saw it in a bookstore) suggests that the word in the context of Gen 6:4 carries the idea of an invasion, as normally, a man with a harem would bring the woman he intends to lay down with to his tent (as opposed to the tent the women would stay in).

Moreover, Genesis 6:4 says, "the Neph′i·lim proved to be in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of the [true] God continued to have relations with the daughters of men and they bore sons to them, they [i.e. the Neph′i·lim] were the mighty ones who were of old, the men of fame."

It was "the Neph′i·lim" who "proved to be in the earth in those days" when the "sons of the [true] God" were doing their thing. If "the sons of the [true] God" are angels, the phrasing very much allows for them to be doing their deeds intransit (so to speak). And it seems to me that if the angels had materialized and lived as humans, then, they would have been "the men of fame" rather than the hybrid Neph′i·lim.

Finally, it doesn't seem logical to me that they would give up their superior abilities as angels when they could materialize and de-materialize at will (based on the accounts of other angels in the Bible who had taken human form temporarily).

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Question about the anointed selection process

by FL_Panthers in

there was a sister in my hall who consumed the emblems during our last memorial.

thing is, she is 27. the elders didn't stop her and no one was like wtf.

can someone be anointed at age 27?.

Bobcat

Here is some research you can do right here:

Breakdown of the word-grouping related to "anointed" - here.

Here and here - The idea of 'non-anointed Christians' and application of Zech 8:23 and Isaiah 45:14 which the WT uses to describe a group of 'non-anointed companions.'

The priesthood of all Christians versus just the 144,000 - here.

Comment about current JW r&f views on being 'anointed' - here.

The WT's coined phrase "anointed remnant" - here.

Being 'born of the spirit' & 'the helper' (or paraclete) - here and here.

Sub-links involving 'anointed,' 'the new covenant,' and the 'great crowd' - here.

Take Care

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Today's wt study! Notice the faults?

by stuckinarut2 in

did we all notice the way in which this weeks wt study (how to maintain a positive viewpoint) was all about keeping the flock positive even if they feel they are not doing enough in 'service'?.

the irony is that the very reason they feel stressed or worthless is because of the pressures the org puts on them to perform!!!.

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Bobcat

The article is, to some extent, a distraction. It gives a false target, so to speak. It focuses on the individuals down-hearted feelings.

But the down-heartedness among many is related to dismay regarding the organization (its teachings and actions). The article never touches on this.

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WT Study article 05/18/2014

by piztjw in

i just started reviewing this "lesson".

i found this in paragraph 5, and am pondering making/attempting to make a comment on it that may cause someone to think.. par.

5 states this, ""the faith" is the body of christian beliefs revealed in the bible.

Bobcat

Piztjw:

If you have the WT Library do a search for "the faith" (include the quotation marks).

Check just returns on the Reference Bible (not the new Bible, but the older one. Its literalness will come to advantage here). There will be a few returns involving "the faith of Abraham" and the like but the main verses dealing with "the faith" as a description of the Christian religion occur at:

Ac 6:7; 13:8; 14:22; 16:5; Ro 3:22; 1Co 16:13; 2Co 13:5; Ga 1:23; 3:23; 3:25; 6:10; Ep 1:15; 4:13; Php 1:27; Col 1:23; 2:7; 1Ti 1:2; 3:9; 3:13; 4:1; 4:6; 5:8; 6:10; 6:12; 2Ti 3:8; 3:15; 4:7; Tit 1:1; 1:13; 3:15; Ja 2:1; 1Pe 5:9; Ju 3; Re 14:12

You could also paste these into the search bar of the WT Library (as is) and it will return all of these verses. Scrolling thru them, looking at the immediate context, is interesting because collectively they reveal a broad picture of what "the faith" is referring to.

Some of the things that stand out to me were:

It involves a lifestyle and a system of beliefs; always 'in' or 'about' or 'concerning' Christ Jesus. Never "the faith" in God (although belief in Christ entails faith in God who sent him). It is not just a personal thing (although there is a personal aspect to it), but it involves a group of people related to each other by "the faith."

Take Care

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