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Posts by Nambo
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Genesis 6:4 - where did the Giants come from if they were wiped out by the flood?
by BroMac in(genesis 6:1-4) 6 now it came about that when men started to grow in numbers on the surface of the ground and daughters were born to them, 2 then the sons of the [true] god began to notice the daughters of men, that they were good-looking; and they went taking wives for themselves, namely, all whom they chose.
3 after that jehovah said: my spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh.
accordingly his days shall amount to a hundred and twenty years.
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Nambo
"Noah was pure in all his generations", I guess this to mean his DNA was pure Adamic, maybe that implies that if he wasnt pure, he might have carried some Demonic DNA without the genes being physically appraent?
I wonder if Demonic genes are dominant?
By the same token then, the Bible says nothing about the Genes of his sons or thier wives, I wonder if maybe a bit of Demonic DNA was carried on the Ark and that occasionaly, like a recessive gene does, it surfaces now and then, for instance in the case of Goliath for it wasnt as if all the Philistines where Giants, just the odd one like Goliath.
I also wonder if this is why all the UFO abduction cases involve sexual experements and DNA extraction, the Demons in disguise looking for any residual trace of thier lost Love ones, or one of their own to crown as the Anti-Christ?
Just a thought of a possibility.
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How Will the Society React to the Hundred Year Anniversary of 1914?
by slimboyfat init's only a couple of years away now and what a headache it must present to the gb - providing they have given it much thought already.
there probably is no elegant way of presenting the hundred year long failure of the end to come; the fact that the "short period of time" of satan being cast down to the earth has now stretched beyond any credibility.
but they have to deal with it one way or another.
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Nambo
Every day it gets closer to the BIG test at the end of the thousand year reign, so maybe the Watchtower will concentrate on promoting that date instead, that way they can relax a bit for another 900 years.
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Is the beast hating on the harlot yet?
by irondork inthis forum would probably not be a good measuring stick for answering that question.
god is supposed to put it into the heart of the beast (u.n.) to hate the harlot (religion) and destroy her.
do you see this happening or is this another "we're seeing more earthquakes" thing?.
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Nambo
I see that apart from 1914, most still belive and hang on to the rest of the orgs teachings as if they only got the one thing wrong.
BTG=false religion?
Firstly, this concept goes back to the middle ages when the Catholic Church ruled over the kings of the (Western) world.
But the book of Revelation wasnt written about the middle ages, it was written about the Lords day.
Does false religion rule over, not influence, but rule over the modern kings of the Earth?
I work in Central Government, I can report that religion does not even have much in the way of influence on modern government, it ceratinly doesnt rule it.
Do you know who rules most of the world now?
And do you know what the device is that BTG has that gives her this power.
Voters religious beliefs?, no. not in this Godforsaken age, its money, the issue and control of it.
Google debt of nations or something similar, you will find about one country that isnt in debt, the Western countries are in debt to the extent they can never ever pay off even the interest.
Read Revelation 18, the Watchtower tells us that the Merchants of the Earth will weep and mourn because nobody buys thier goods anymore means that when religion falls, nobody will by Christmas cards!!! Nonsense, the reason the Merchats will weep and mourn is because nobody will buy anything!, because when BTG falls, there will not be a monetary system.
Now Benjamin Disreali, British Prime Minister, he knew in Queen Victorias time who BTG was, he even announced it in the Chamber.
David Llyod George British Prime Minister, said at the turn of the last century that the most powerfull man in Britain was Lord Rothschild, an international Jewish banker, starting to get the picture, Rothschild said, give me control of the issue of a nations money supply, and it matters not who make the laws, he Knew who had a Kingdom over the kings of the Earth!
What does the Bible say about BTG, in Matthew 23 Jesus lays the bloodguilt of the Prophets and all those slaughtered on the Earth at the hands of the Jewish rulers. nJerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who killed the Prophets.
Now If you read the end of Revelation 18, you will find that same bloodguilt in the skirts of BTG, so unless Jesus is in the habit of accusing everybody he does like with the same thing, BTG the City that reigns over the Kings of the Earth, isnt Rome, its Jerusalem.
BTG, the Great Harlot, have a read of the Old Testament and see how many times you will find Jerusalem, Israel and Judah called a Harlot, the Biblical meaning not being a prostitute, but an unfaithfull wife, and who did Jehovah ever marry?, the Catholic Church?, no, Israel.
Jerusalem sits on 7 hills.
Back to today, google who owns and runs 98% of the worlds media, Rev 18, by her all the nations where decieved.
Google members of the Senate with dual Israeli nationalities.
British leader of the opposition, Jewish
Speaker, Jewish
Prime Minister, Grandson of a Jewish Banker
Find Barroness Tonges speak in the House of Lords where she states the Labour, Conservative and probaly her own Party, the Liberals, are all run by Israel.
Etc Etc Etc, this is something the Watchtower never even mentions, the Israeli Lobby and the amount of power it has. That 80% of British polititions are in Labour or Conservative Friends of Israel.
Did you think your banks, the Bank of England, the Federal Reserve are Government owned?
They are privately owned and they print and sell that paper money that costs them nothing, they sell it with interest to the host nations, that why the worlds in debt, to be in debt somebody has to equally be in credit and when you have that much money, you can buy governments.
Why do you think all our wars are Israels wars?
Why do you think Israel can ethnically cleanse Palestine and get away with it?
As for the Beast hating the Harlot, the Beast isnt the UN, though the UN might be the vehicle of the Beast, its the One World Government, or New World Order, something else the society doesnt seem to be keeping on the watch for.
You will find at present, that because of what the international bankers are doing to the worlds economy with thier witholding the issue of credit, still giving themselves huge bonuses, and what they are doing in Palestine, many many, are starting on the road to hating the Harlot, even Jews, "Get out of her my people if you do not want to share in her sins"
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Emblem stupidity, and the bizarre dance of the confused memorial-taker
by cedars inwell, i went along to the memorial with mrs cedars.
it was my first since my "awakening" just less than a year ago.
apparently i made a lot of people happy by being there (even if it was only building up false hopes), the most important of which were my family.
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Djeggnog
If you read John Chapter 6, Jesus himself likens the eating of his flesh, as being the bread from heaven that must be eaten in order to gain everlasting life, he compares it to the previous bread from heaven, the Manna, that didnt result in everlasting life, and that was eaten by all, including the mixed company.
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What made you leave?
by CuriousUK inapologies if this has been discussed before, but i am really very interested in finding out why members here left their congregations for lives away from jw?.
was there a "lightbulb" moment where you just woke up one day and realised that you had been brainwashed?
or a slow realisation over time?
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Nambo
I joined the truth in my 20s, first I was in a loving and Spiritual congregation. I becaome so Spiritual I wanted to move to were the need was greatest.
Thats when I discovered my original congregation was the exeption to the rule, over the next few years my whole outlook on God and the truth was distorted until I viewed God as some sort of Hitler figure and the Spiritual Paradise more like a Stalin era Police state.
Even the field ministry which I intially loved so much was made unproductive through their silly rules and regualtions, for instance, I was very good at starting Bible studies, mainly with Women, (as they tend to be the ones answering the door and tend to be more receptive to a man calling than a male householder, its just Human nature), anyhow, the rule was, you couldnt study with a member of the opposite sex, even if you took a Sister with you, so I had to give all my studies to Sisters, who 100% of cases, dropped them or couldnt be bothered.
Another example of the doctrines of men invalidating the Love of the Christ was that I used to go around the homes of elderly single sisters as part of my Christian good works, to be honest, I felt quite bored, drinking tea and bisquits, whilst they chatted away, but I knew how lonely life was for these old widows, with only the meetings and a Saturday morning for company. But in my new congregation, this wasnt allowed, it was some sort of sin to visit old folk, because..........you might not be able to stop yourself having sex with them!!!!!!!!!
Can you belive the selfish sex obsessed stupidity of these people?
I was working in an office with beautifull girls in thier 20s who used to offer me sex, not just a date, I turned them down for the truth, but those 80 year old wrinkled widows, I must admit, that was hard
Iam suprised they let us walk around the countryside, all those sheep very tempting for a young brother, ( and especially as somebody in the circuit was actuallly disfellowshipped for such).
Once they convinced me that Jehovah didnt care two hoots about me I moved back down South to a more Neutral congregation, but it didnt have the level of Spirituality I needed to rescue me from falling away.
In the end I left as a form of Suicide, still believing it all and hense feeling I was now living with a one way ticket to Damnation.
It was such a relief to learn after 10 years of this suffering, that the JWs where not the owners of Jehovah, and that his doctrines wernt the doctrines of men.
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ex-jw-uk
by bigmac ini'm quite new to this site, & have realised some members have a union jack symbol under their avatar.
i don't.. could we have a "show of hands" from any uk members?
i've already found several by reading older posts..
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Nambo
Croydon-ish
It was a few years up North though where the Moors murderers and Harold Shipman practised that I learnt the "real truth"!! (Must be something in the water).
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marriage without affection/sex/touching
by zeb inyes thats my situation.
some where along the path of life the wt guilt trip was dumped on our marriage and we havent had sex for years.. anyone else?
the hearts and flowers and gifts and doing the cleaning, the house work and paying the daily accounts never being drunk on drugs playing the horses or screwing others yep its all there but nothing coming back due to the wt guilt trip.. they made so much of 'oral sex' and 'pornea' incorrectly quoted at that and ventured thereby into areas they were patently very ill equipped to comment on.
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Nambo
I remember an Elder in my local congregation saying from the platform, that as soon as youve had sex, you have to have a shower and change the bed linen!
I wonder what scripture he got that from?, maybe the one where it says "it is in vain that they worship me as they teach doctrines of men as commandments"
Now as a single man that came in from the ouside world, and in my 20s, I was constantly hung up on the fear that if I did meet a nice Sister, that the chances are, that after marriage I would never actually see her naked, and that the kinkiest sex to be expected would bt missionary with the lights off.
As it turned out, when I did meet a Sister, she was so innocent that she hadnt even heard of oral sex, but it didnt really matter as much as the emotional attachment, but because I had a job and a mortgage, and only managed Auxiliary Pioneering during my holidays, I was classed as one of the Untouchables, so the Elders told her she would please Jehovah more by ditching me and finding a pioneer. Which she did, though within a week she was asking me out again, but by then I had got so down that my Attachment Disorder had firmly kicked in and I didnt respond.
It was that incident that more than any other convinced me Jehovah didnt want me so within a few years I committed what I felt at the time to be deliberate self-damnation by falling away.
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Anyone tried the E-Cigarette Yet?
by prophecor inas a way of having your cake and eating it, too?
the marvel of modern technology and all...do they work for you?
not designed to get you off nicotine so much, but as a means of a less deadly delivery system.
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Nambo
I tried them for about six months, then last spring I found I was getting a wheezy chest, as if I had ashma or something, now I dont know if I had some sort of a cold, or wiether it was those e-cigs, so I stopped using them to see if the wheezy chest went away, which it did.
When I told somebody at work, they said that the wheezy chest was a noted side effect.
Now there are two types of oils that you can get, the not so common one is vegetable based so might be better for the chest, I havnt tried it but might do.
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Hi, everybody!
by thomyorke ini am from russia, and i've ben a jw for a 19 years of my life, since my early childhood.last 5-6 years that i spend my time in the organization, it was only because my family, close friends, and a girlfriend.i've been a pioneer for a 6 years, but my favorite kind of ministry was construction of kingdom halls!
(because there was a lot of humour, creative young people, young and pretty sisters, etc.
;)i still have very good memories about that period...nearly before i finally quit, i was disfellowshipped for a 1 year and 4 months.in that time i 've reed a "crisis of concience" and "in search for christian freedom", and give those book to my mom,she already was inactive, and having a serious doubts.but i was too naive!i decided to comeback into organization- cause of my girlfriend and friends.and remain there as a "double agent" or a spy))i had to pass through all the way to be reinstated...when i 'came back', i had a bad surprise: the elders decided that i need to study some publications again,for my "reabilitation".
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Nambo
Hi Thomyorke and welcome, must feel pretty lonely being only Russian?, do they not have Russian ex-JW sites?, maybe you could start one and then when you have enough people we could all join to gether and start a new JW religion that is in accord with the Bible?
Though Iam born and in the truth in England, Iam half Prussia which isnt so far from you Ethnically.