Posts by Nambo

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The ugliest statment A parent can say to their child.

by jam in

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friends

my ex (jw) told my two youngest 9 and 11, your dad.

wanted more kids, meaning them.

we had two older.. how would a child feel after their mother tell them, i really.

Nambo

I can still remember it, one sunny day when I was five, holding mummies hand, walking up the path to this big old house in Balham, through the door, where she left me, no warning, to face life on my own, it was a Childrens home and she was getting rid of me.

JW parents arent the worst parents in the world, in fact when I made my own way into the "truth", I was actually quite jealous of the relationships the young ones had with thier JW parents.

Not to diminish the suffering mentioned in folks posts here, or the pain of shunning, but dont think child abuse is purely a JW doctrine.

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Image Subliminal nº 094 - YIN-YANG

by indicetj.com in

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look no 94: yin-yang.

http://indicetj.com/pdf/estudo_2_jehovah.htm.

Nambo

Nah, there was something very suspitious about the Revelation Climax book, the purple monster hand #10 for instance, thats something dilleberate and something we all saw.

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Anxiety attacks and Door to Door Activity...what have you observed?

by Momma-Tossed-Me in

during door to door activity in the distant past i have had the experience of witnessing actual anxiety attacks of jw's who could not handle that required preaching on that day and on more than one occasion.. this is what i have seen on multiple occassions.. extreme headaches, upset stomach to the point of vomiting, visible trembling before even approaching the door, arguments with spouses and children, signs of elevated blood pressure, light sensitiity, a total character change, and basicly a complete shut down to the point of limited communication.

yes we all have butterflies in the stomach associated with certain activities but what i am talking about here bodily affliction to the point of physically affecting the individual in some cases for the rest of the day.. these symptoms are obviously present for some newbie to this type of activity but i have observed this from people who have been exposed to this type of work for years.

i think the body just cannot handle the stress anymore, and the marination in the hormones associated with it.

Nambo

Thank you Paintedtoenail, I would suggest you where, or would have been, of great value doing another Christian work, if the oppurtunity for such where available to you, but as I said, the society concentrates so much on the preaching work, that other Christian works, especailly those apertaining to Christian Love, are neglected.

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Anxiety attacks and Door to Door Activity...what have you observed?

by Momma-Tossed-Me in

during door to door activity in the distant past i have had the experience of witnessing actual anxiety attacks of jw's who could not handle that required preaching on that day and on more than one occasion.. this is what i have seen on multiple occassions.. extreme headaches, upset stomach to the point of vomiting, visible trembling before even approaching the door, arguments with spouses and children, signs of elevated blood pressure, light sensitiity, a total character change, and basicly a complete shut down to the point of limited communication.

yes we all have butterflies in the stomach associated with certain activities but what i am talking about here bodily affliction to the point of physically affecting the individual in some cases for the rest of the day.. these symptoms are obviously present for some newbie to this type of activity but i have observed this from people who have been exposed to this type of work for years.

i think the body just cannot handle the stress anymore, and the marination in the hormones associated with it.

Nambo

From day one, I loved the ministry, but I soon realised others didnt, in fact it was so hard getting others out I was given my own map, (despite not even being an auxilary Pioneer), and I would go out on my own.

Now I wonder if that scripture that talks about gifts in men, some being this, some that and some the other , cannot remember where it is from, wiether that is suggesting we have differant jobs to do in the Church of God, and that if you are doing the one you havnt been given the gift for, you are going to suffer?

And obviously, every Witness is forced to do that one Christian task that they may not be suitable for, at the expense of all those other Christian tasks that they might nave been very good at, but that gets neglected in this religion.

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If Jesus did return in 1914, wouldnt he have.........?

by Nambo in

if jesus returned in 1914, i can understand he would be invisible to the rest of mankind so he can seperate the wheat from the chaff from thier genuine behaviour, but why is he also invisible to the congregation he is head of?.

he appeared to the original disciples before he went to heaven, now he has "returned", why hasnt he appeared to his faithfull and discreet slave?.

if he is directing his church on earth, shouldnt he at least appear to the president to give him some direction and to ensure "his" chosen congregation doesnt make any silly mistakes that would hamper the work?.

Nambo

And as for the path of the righteous one being like light that gets brighter and brighter until the day is firmly established, what day could be more firmly established than the day Jesus comes, all this new light business surely leads up to the return of the Christ, not after.

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If Jesus did return in 1914, wouldnt he have.........?

by Nambo in

if jesus returned in 1914, i can understand he would be invisible to the rest of mankind so he can seperate the wheat from the chaff from thier genuine behaviour, but why is he also invisible to the congregation he is head of?.

he appeared to the original disciples before he went to heaven, now he has "returned", why hasnt he appeared to his faithfull and discreet slave?.

if he is directing his church on earth, shouldnt he at least appear to the president to give him some direction and to ensure "his" chosen congregation doesnt make any silly mistakes that would hamper the work?.

Nambo

If Jesus returned in 1914, I can understand he would be invisible to the rest of mankind so he can seperate the wheat from the chaff from thier genuine behaviour, but why is he also invisible to the congregation he is head of?

He appeared to the original disciples before he went to Heaven, now he has "returned", why hasnt he appeared to his Faithfull and Discreet Slave?

If he is directing his church on Earth, shouldnt he at least appear to the President to give him some direction and to ensure "his" chosen congregation doesnt make any silly mistakes that would hamper the work?

What was the point of him returning at all if he hasnt even helped direct "his" organisation and is invisible to them as well?

Even to his annointed "brothers" he is invisible?

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Watchtower Dec 2011 Makes fun of fools who think the end is 2012. Ironic??

by Witness 007 in

wachtower dec 1 2011 p.10 "french village faces influx of apocalypse believers...they believe the world will end 21 december 2012 when the end of....ancient maya calander...despite predictions by calamity-howling religious leaders, pseudoscientists, and any other prognosticators, earth will be in existence for a long time...when will this occur?

no human knows.

jehovah's witnesses do not try to predict when god will destroy the wicked...{really?

Nambo

Now what would be ironic, is if the world did actually end on 21st Dec 2012

The only day the Witnesses say it wont after saying it will every other day!

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Is a malevolent higher power behind the Watchtowers seeming addiction to badness and obliviousness?

by Fernando in

we discuss the watchtowers seeming addiction to badness and obliviousness daily on jwn.. .

is it natural or supernatural?.

what are your thoughts?.

Nambo

My Mistake Pizzy, it was Knorr, well he certainly was the one who announced it, though Rutherford was still alive to see the collapse of the League of Nations.

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"Jesus did not die on the cross" (Gunnar Samuelsson)

by Titus in

"jesus did not die on the cross" .

a new doctoral dissertation in theology from gothenburg university claims that the bible has been misinterpreted when it comes to how jesus died.

gunnar samuelsson who wrote the dissertation has studied the original texts and sees no explicit references to crucifiction.

Nambo

Now Ive seen in the British Museum a moderate sized cross with a circle that I belive is called a Celtic Cross, this artifact predated Christs execution by some considerable number of years, so I do feel both the society, and Hislop have some legitamate reason to associate the cross with Tammuz the Sun god worship, the circle being the sun and the cross being the sacred "T" of Tammuz.

And why therefore would Jehovah have his son associated with such a pagan religious image?

Having said that, is it not conceiveable that as this was Satans finest hour, the brusing of the heel, that the implement of Christs suffering could indeed be a symbal or identifying mark of the false god, Satan, who arranged such? That Satan could use his device to take the life of the son of God and to be perpetually worshipped for it afterwards?

My point being that even if the Romans did use the cross, this doesnt make the cross a "Christian" image as it was indeed Satans tool and one that was previously associated with sun worship.

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She's trying to make her a publisher...

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

soooo, i've been sudying the bible with a 10 year old girl for two years now...her mother recently got baptised.

since i've been having doubts about the org i've centered our discussions on god and the bible and less on pleasing the org...i was doing fine.... until i invited an older pioneer sister to accompany me on the study....heeeeeeesh...she changed the topic from having manners to becoming an unbaptised publisher....she went onnnnn and onnnnn about "don't you want to please jehovah and jesus, wouldn't you like to put in a form every month and you do love jehovah and want to tell others about him,right?

" i was so upset.. i treat and love this girl as if she was my little sister and i do not want her to nose dive into this religion...she's a child for god's sake!.

Nambo

At that young age, her views of God might be shaped for life, as positive or negative.

It sounds like you are doing the right thing GrowingGirl, just concentrate on teaching her God and Jesus and the Bible as positive things with their Love given to her as grace and with no pressure on her, maybe it will give her a solid foundation that will withstand the bad things that will be taught to her, and it sound like you are the only one who will do this, if you give up, her Mother will just get some other Witness like this Pioneer who will put the poor girl off God for life!