Posts by thomyorke

"if it was'nt for the preaching work there would be millions more witnesses" - he was saying jehovah wants quality not quantity.. si i'm thinking, what's the difference as long as he has a people that live by bible standards and are moral.

maybe sharing their hope and faith with friends and relatives on a casual basis?

how backwards is that?.

thomyorke

Speaker on a platform should have he's a jacket on, even if outside temperature is +80C (176F)!

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Please help me with this "poetry" - my english are very poor!

by thomyorke in

my colleague take a part in some contest of stories.. she wrote a silly story about her and her best friend (girlfriend?)...)).

it will goes to worldwide 'experts'...who dont speak english very well, cause they are from south korea.. .

if you can fix and adjust it into a beautiful english, i'll be happy!!!.

thomyorke

Thanks a lot!

You did a very good job.

Unfortunatelly, i don't have an english-speaking friends after i leave the organization, that's why i have no progress...))

(So much work with russian-speaking ex-sheeps))))))

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Please help me with this "poetry" - my english are very poor!

by thomyorke in

my colleague take a part in some contest of stories.. she wrote a silly story about her and her best friend (girlfriend?)...)).

it will goes to worldwide 'experts'...who dont speak english very well, cause they are from south korea.. .

if you can fix and adjust it into a beautiful english, i'll be happy!!!.

thomyorke

Hi, everyone!

Once again i would like you to examine my english...))

So, one of my friends from our russian 'Ex-JW Rehabilitation center' wrote a little speech. And he will use it on coming weekend, at the time when he will visit some anti-cult convention in Serbia.

He asked me to check this material to adjust some mistakes...

But i guess, i am little bit "blind" in doing this...

So, here it is:

" This report focuses on the Jehovah's Witnesses - pseudochristian sect, whose work spans more than 230 countries, and the number exceeds seven million adherents. Jehovah's Witnesses are widespread and worldwide fame through his active missionary work. While Witnesses are identify themselves as Christians, this confession, denies the fundamental doctrines of Christianity - the Trinity and the Incarnation of God. Witnesses categorically disagree with the fact that their movement is totalitarian and destructive. As a former member of the cult for the past ten years, I will try to analyze the ideology of the active religious groups in order to detect signs of guruizm.

Jehovah's Witnesses sincerely believe that their organization - this is not an authoritarian sect. They strongly emphasize that the head of their organization is not worth the personal leader - a guru who claims to has a divine revelation. Yes, now they are directed by the Governing Body, consisting of ten equal members belonging to the chosen remnant anointed of God. But do not jump to conclusions. The organization of Jehovah's Witnesses did the classic path of evolution guruizm. As we know, many sects fail after the gurus death, and if not, then either they have an heir to the guru, or the organization itself takes on its role. The motion of the witnesses did a step by step all these stages.

The founder and first president of the Watchtower Society, pastor Charles Russell, during his lifetime was considered by most people "faithful and discreet slave" whom the Lord has placed over the entire estate. Russell was estimated as the mouthpiece - the tool that God used to restore lost Bible truths. He had an incredible reputation in the eyes of the Bible Students (as Jehovah's Witnesses were then known). He was the author of all false personal prophecy and interpretation of the Bible, which were perceived by Witnesses as a divine.

After the death of pastor Russell came to power by capture a lawyer, Joseph Rutherford, powerful and tough man. Actually, it was Rutherford laid the authoritarian image of the organization. He personally supervised by the Organization. All false prophecies and theological revelation 20s - the 30s were his own fabrications. All administrative and theological decisions are made directly by Rutherford. It was during his reign were laid all the features of this sectarian movement.

After the death of Rutherford, up to the 70s, the sole leadership over Organization had Nathan Knorr - the third president of the Watchtower Society. The last word has always been behind him. His right hand was the chief ideologue of the organization - Frederick Franz, the one that worked on the creation of its own translation of the Bible under the name "New World".

It was only in 1976 management of the organization launched a collegial governing body. From now on, all questions were settled by vote, not the sole decision of the president of the Watchtower Society. Ordinary witnesses are accustomed to think, it always has been. However, this is completely wrong.

As noted by Raymond Franz a former member of the Governing Body of in his book "Crisis of Conscience," a reform gave a lot of hope. However, in essence an authoritarian management style was not overcome. In fact the power of one man was transferred to a group of people, obediently continued to rate of the general lines laid by Rutherford. According to the teachings of Organization the members of the Governing Council are agents of a progressive understanding of divine revelation and the true interpreters of God's will. To go against them - it means to go against God. All things which are coming from the Governing Body the common witnesses perceive as given by God himself. This Body is representative of the collective "faithful and discreet slave", which is used by Christ, to spiritual nourish their ministers. Jehovah's Witnesses are based on speculative interpretations of biblical texts and chronological computations, claim that God chose them in 1919 as its people and leadership of the Organization has given the duty to organize the world preaching to gather those who will be saved at Armageddon. Consequently, personal salvation is possible only in close connection with the management of the Organization.

Consider the specific examples of manipulation of life of millions of Jehovah's Witnesses:

Blood transfusion. As it known Jehovah's Witnesses believe blood transfusion is a heavy sin. This prohibition they base on the interpretation of the biblical commandments are not eating the blood. The witnesses can not agree on the major components of blood transfusion: plasma, red blood cells, platelets and white blood cells. However, they may agree to a smaller fraction of blood. I must say that many witnesses did not understand neither the ban nor the ongoing differentiation of blood into components. In addition, some procedures are considered unacceptable to blood (for example, its fence to return), while others are resolved (for example, blood sampling for cleaning without disturbing the return channel of circulation). However, unshakable faith in the Governing Body, in some cases makes the obedient witnesses suicide. If today's "anointed" decide that blood transfusions is acceptable - all witnesses dutifully agree with this and it will pour.

Alternative service. Until 1996, the leadership of Organization considered the alternative non-military service is unacceptable for a Christian. The alternative was seen as compromising with the government. The reasoning behind this situation lie in the fact that since this service replaces the military, it takes the place that replaces and (in agreement with this argument), respectively, is the same. As a result of this scholastic position all young witnesses for refusing to serve in the army and even the alternative service were sent to prison. Moreover, many witnesses did not understand this position. However, in 1996, management changed its position and torture of witnesses ceased.

Disfellowshipment. Leaders of Organization teach that witnesses can not communicate with those who have been expelled from the Organization. In the case of excommunication a close relative, not living under one roof, all contact with him should be kept to a minimum. As a result of these rules, thousands of people have lost family and close family relationships. For many, this was a true tragedy. Attitudes imposed to ordinary witnesses, so deeply into their minds that are stronger than even parental affection for children.

High Education. The leaders of Organization never approved study at higher education institutions. Today, education is strongly discouraged. As a result of such a position a lot of young witnesses have lost access to education. In consequence, many witnesses have engaged in low-wage labor, which leads to financial difficulties, unsettled in life, depression.

The family and children. The leaders of Organization has always called for young ministers not to think about the children. Because we live in the past few days, kids - this is a distraction from the preaching ministry. As a result of such appeals, many witnesses were either unmarried, because make a family need with fellow believers, or childless. They met old age alone. Because of this situation a depression are particularly vulnerable single women.

Jehovah's Witnesses are charmed by ideas of divine earth channel through which God guides his people. For example, all print publications and official letters of Watchtower Society has always anonymous. None of the witnesses did not know the real authors of magazines, but at the same time, definitely trust their contents. This is done by competent and veiled indoctrination. In the case of this organization, we are dealing with a collective guru, who turns out to be a mediator between the believer and God. Witnesses believe that they are free. But they implicitly trust the leadership of Brooklyn, and will welcome any new provision or change of dogma. Sectarian consciousness does not take even obvious facts, such as false prophecy about the end of the light from their leaders. In this case they will certainly say that the apostles were wrong, too, and that leadership was driven by the best motives.

The only way to help Jehovah's Witnesses get rid of this dependence - is to show him basing on the facts that the claim of leadership in the chosenness is true speculation. The creation, development and management of the Organization carried out solely by the Presidents of the Watchtower Society - the true personal gurus. The doctrine of the "faithful and discreet slave" as a collective group of anointed guru, by which Jehovah works since 1919 - only a fiction. Ideology and beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses are always controled by limited and a closed group of persons whose activities are completely not transparent to the ordinary witness. All meetings of the Governing body are held in a strictly confidential environment. The Organization still remains a collective guru for seven million obedient followers of this sect."

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Caleb's dad

by poppers in

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i think immigration should check his papers, but i'll be darned if i can figure out what country he'd be deported to.

why would the makers of this dvd use such a ridiculous accent?.

thomyorke

He is from Transilvania...

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Watchtower's New "Toy Story" - What Parents Need To Know

by cedars in

i've uploaded a new blog article that addresses the latest dvd release at the current district convention, namely "become jehovah's friend!

" - the tale of young caleb and his brush with divine wrath over a plastic toy wizard.

a link to the article, which includes the youtube samples of the production, is below:.

thomyorke

I am just curious, who was this "professionals", who make such a crap?

Probably, Society got some ex-multimedia workers, who wrote this "animation" on a Mac studio...

But... each Pixar low-budget 1-minut cartoon are 10o times better!!!

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How about establish a bar (club or pub) for apostates?

by thomyorke in

a name...for example, "franz bar".

menu: .

cocktails: light of truth, crisis of counscience, tears of a pioneeer sister, elderette.... shots: judicial commitee, i am anointed!, new understanding.... lunch: pioneer style, bethel style, beth-sarim de luxe (extra large).... .

thomyorke

A name...for example, "FRANZ BAR"

Menu:

Cocktails: Light of truth, Crisis of counscience, Tears of a pioneeer sister, Elderette...

Shots: Judicial commitee, I Am Anointed!, New Understanding...

Lunch: pioneer style, bethel style, Beth-Sarim De Luxe (extra large)...

...You can add some drinks and other stuff!

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One cute canadian sister

by thomyorke in

i like her videos about self-injury and other mental and physical problems, that could happened to young people.... she say that she is an active jw and regularly visit the meetings and go to service.. http://www.youtube.com/user/idranktheseawater.

but... what can you say about her wearing and hair style?.

it's cool, but it's "non-spiritual" style, not for "true" jw, isn't it ?!

thomyorke

St. George of England: "Can't comment on the brothers though, not my department"

So, you don't have there any brothers who trying to imitate David Beckham, "icon of a metrosexuals?"

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One cute canadian sister

by thomyorke in

i like her videos about self-injury and other mental and physical problems, that could happened to young people.... she say that she is an active jw and regularly visit the meetings and go to service.. http://www.youtube.com/user/idranktheseawater.

but... what can you say about her wearing and hair style?.

it's cool, but it's "non-spiritual" style, not for "true" jw, isn't it ?!

thomyorke

I like her videos about self-injury and other mental and physical problems, that could happened to young people...

She say that she is an active JW and regularly visit the meetings and go to service.

http://www.youtube.com/user/idranktheseawater

But... what can you say about her wearing and hair style?

It's cool, but it's "non-spiritual" style, not for "true" JW, isn't it ?!

Espcially in my country (Russia) elders can "punish" young sister for such looking!

(I heard that in Sweden they have a ministerial servants with coloured hair (!!!) and sisters on a disrtict conventions wear like almost naked...

But here bro and sis should look like like a clerks or nunes))

What about your country?