Posts by Quandary

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How can I know for sure that the WTS isn't God's organization?

by nbernat in

i go back and forth everyday.

one day i'm like, "suppress your gay feelings and what you think is wrong about this organization and keep going forward because you want eternal life and all of your friends are here and it's as close to the truth as it can possibly get so just deal with it.

" others i'm like, "live your life.

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The fact that the FDS uses the term "present truth" to qualify their constant changes in doctrine is one of the major factors which convinced me this organization cannot be guided by God.

Also, the fact that EVERY prophecy in the Old Testament supposedly has a second fullfillment which started in 1914 and applies to the handful of Bible Students of that day is another "ding, ding, ding" telling you something is wrong here!

Another one, the fact that they apply the direction in 2 John to not even greet someone who THEY disfellowship is WRONG. The context is clear, John was speaking about the Anti Christ, NOT to someone who decided that he just doesn't agree with the GB! Twisting scriptures so blatantly to qualify their ridiculous tenets is an abomination!

Also, the fact they promote conditional love by only showing christian love to their own or to anyone who shows interest in their religion is the ultimate UNchristian characteristic they display!

Their are numerous other reasons that I have for coming to the conclusion that this organization is completely MAN made but I am too tired to list them all.

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Jests in the Revelation Climax book (page 233)

by cultswatter in

more jests for you.

scare tactics.

dear god!!.

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The artist has to be a real homophobe! Notice the three men in the bottom right corner being pelted? Is the artist insinuating they are gay? Just speculating-

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Germany - Spain --- Let's Open The Bets

by hamilcarr in

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friends

calling all lovers of european football to share their bet on the euro 2008 finals.. i bet on penalties after 1-1. germany will win.

for all ignorants of football: "football is a simple game: 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the germans win.

" --- gary lineker..

Quandary

Spain is unstoppable!

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Got Some Encouraging "Bad" JW News

by Seeker4 in

an active jw was in touch with me yesterday, and we were catching up on a few things.

i found out that a witness i was friends with just daed.

he went to college and i'd always wondered if he has as much trouble with the jws as i thought he might.

Quandary

Encouraging news INDEED! Thanks for sharing.

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The growing irrelevance of the Watchtower message

by drew sagan in

in many ways it appears as if the watchtower movement is slowing down.

a number of changes over the last few years certainly show that the watchtower is in a period of transition.

they have cut back on the number of magazines they print as well as lowered the cost of production by eliminating things like hard backed books.

Quandary

Not one single thing they teach falls very far from the "time of the end is upon us" tree. The "time of the end" story is the Jehovah's Witness version of easter bunny and santa claus. The irrelevance of it is that not many Witnesses actually believe in it any more - they are there for social reasons, family pressures, just plain habit of momentum, or off on some sad elder/governing body power trip. They are just going through the motions of the belief in the immediate end of the world.

Totally agree with your point James!

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The growing irrelevance of the Watchtower message

by drew sagan in

in many ways it appears as if the watchtower movement is slowing down.

a number of changes over the last few years certainly show that the watchtower is in a period of transition.

they have cut back on the number of magazines they print as well as lowered the cost of production by eliminating things like hard backed books.

Quandary

A couple of years ago I was having a discussion with a fellow elder who is an old timer, grandfather came in during CTR's time, anyway, he was reasoning that if Jehovah waited 120 years for Noah's generation when the earth's population was only a few hundred million (I don't know how he arrived at that figure) are we to expect that he would show a less patient attitude with 6 billion people? Thinking back, I think his logic may have been influenced by the W article I referenced earlier.

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The growing irrelevance of the Watchtower message

by drew sagan in

in many ways it appears as if the watchtower movement is slowing down.

a number of changes over the last few years certainly show that the watchtower is in a period of transition.

they have cut back on the number of magazines they print as well as lowered the cost of production by eliminating things like hard backed books.

Quandary

I know- The JWs will ALWAYS be an eschatological religion. It's in their genes!

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The growing irrelevance of the Watchtower message

by drew sagan in

in many ways it appears as if the watchtower movement is slowing down.

a number of changes over the last few years certainly show that the watchtower is in a period of transition.

they have cut back on the number of magazines they print as well as lowered the cost of production by eliminating things like hard backed books.

Quandary

I believe some have construed statements like the following from W12/15/03 to suggest the GB is toying with 120 year period of preaching from 1914 which would bring us to 2034.

Warned

of"ThingsNotYetBeheld"

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In Noah’s day, Jehovah declared: "My spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh. Accordingly his days shall amount to a hundred and twenty years." (Genesis 6:3) The issuance of this divine decree in 2490 B.C.E. marked the beginning of the end for that ungodly world. Just think what that meant for those then living! Only 120 years more and Jehovah would bring "the deluge of waters upon the earth to bring to ruin all flesh in which the force of life is active from under the heavens."—Genesis 6:17.

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Noah received the warning of the upcoming catastrophe decades in advance, and he wisely used the time to prepare for survival. "After being given divine warning of things not yet beheld," says the apostle Paul, "[Noah] showed godly fear and constructed an ark for the saving of his household." (Hebrews 11:7) What about us? Some 90 years have passed since the last days of this system of things began in 1914. We are certainly in "the time of the end." (Daniel 12:4) How should we respond to warnings we have been given? "He that does the will of God remains forever," states the Bible. (1 John 2:17) Now is therefore the time to do Jehovah’s will with a keen sense of urgency.

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The Koolaid is ready!!!!

by whereami in

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friends

e-mail going around jw land.. .

illustration about obedience given by a brother at a new kingdom hall in new england:.

'...do you realize that in the bible there are many instances of situations where jehovah's people were given directions that made no sense from a human standpoint and seemed totally illogical?

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'Do you have the faith to follow the direction of the faithful and discreet slave in these last days even if you don't understand what they are asking and it seems as if you will die because the direction is illogical? Will you quickly obey and trust the channel Jehovah is using?'

If this doesn't scream C U L T to whoever hears or reads it, they would have to be completely brainwashed!!

This is scary stuff-

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Painfully Long Prayers on the last day of the 3-day Conventions.

by blkblk13 in

anyone else hate this practice?

uve been sitting all day 4 three days @ this place and u just wanna hurry up and finish ur cleaning assignment so u can go out to eat w/ ur friends, but bro.

special speaker from bethel/or do has to give a one man symposium during his prayer recapping every single moment of the past 3 days.. its like they have this formula that they use to determine how long a prayer should be.

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The all time worst District Convention concluding prayer of all time that I had the misfortune of enduring through, was the year I was dunked, Fred Franz was in town vactioning and just dropped by to give the concluding ~~prayer~~ lecture. He droned on and on for over 10 minutes, I was looking at my watch the whole time. What a gas bag!!

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