if i knew then what I know now i would not have been excluded from so many family events,,, the marriage of my brother, the death of my father and grandmother and the life events that make life life. it is all legalistic bullshit, but if your family and friends believe it, and you can find a way to skirt their 'laws' you will be better off. I have spent the last 30 years wondering if I could have found a way to keep the good and lose tha bad. it's a fine line. but I wish I'd known how little power the elders really had. life would have been very different. and, frankly, i don't think i'd have lost my family.
jeanniebeanzz
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So the Elders want to get together, and I kinda want to.
by Darkknight757 inso the wife and i were uninvited to another jw get together which we didn't want to go to anyways.
finally we find out that something on my facebook account is getting some people's in my old halls undies in a bunch.
so i was thinking of meeting with them to at least clear my wife's name and give them some much needed hell.
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So the Elders want to get together, and I kinda want to.
by Darkknight757 inso the wife and i were uninvited to another jw get together which we didn't want to go to anyways.
finally we find out that something on my facebook account is getting some people's in my old halls undies in a bunch.
so i was thinking of meeting with them to at least clear my wife's name and give them some much needed hell.
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jeanniebeanzz
Dude, if you don't want to be part of the religion anymore just ignore them. :/ Meeting with two elders is a bad idea tho because, as has been stated, once you give them the middle finger, you WILL be df'd. If you still want to have contact with any other people in that group, don't meet with them. If they have nothing 'on you' they aren't in a position to make the announcement that severs your ties to any friends you may have that are still stuck in the lie.
I wouldn't meet with them even if I did not have 'friends' in the group; it just feeds into their power trip and validates their authority over you to others. :/
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POP QUIZ: You're An Elder, And A Sister Has Suicidal Thoughts...
by pale.emperor inlets imagine you're a jehovah's witness elder.
you have zero theological training aside from what you've read in the watchtower and the currently still approved watchtower publications, you have zero counseling skills, and no medical training.
a recently bereaved sister approaches you in tears and tells you she just wants to die.. what do you do?.
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jeanniebeanzz
I could only tell you what they told me, but it would make you throw up... also resulted in grave consequences. These people have no idea what they are doing.
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Successes you enjoyed since leaving the Org
by Tallon inthought i would start a discussion, and hopefully a positive one, on what successes you’ve enjoyed since leaving the org.. each of us is different as people, in life experiences etc.
however we all share one common factor in that we have all experienced the negativity, to a greater or lesser degree, of being a jw and the org.. each success is worth celebrating so i invite you to share some of your achievements.
it does not matter how ‘big or small’ it is, share it with us.. my achievement means a great deal to me both personally and professionally.
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jeanniebeanzz
Dumped abuser and his ridiculous religion, then: Went to college, learned to think critically and logically, found actual decent man and fell in love, married, had beautiful son together, got multiple professional certifications, had a nice career, purchased beautiful home and nice cars, BUT most importantly of all, got my children by my first mistake (marriage) out of that destructive, piece of crap, life destroying, family destroying religion.
Life has been good since.
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After Being Out for 17 Years He is Back In again!!!
by new boy ini called a guy i haven talked with for over two years yesterday.
i met him at bethel back in the 1970's.
david b was known as the g job king back then.
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jeanniebeanzz
It happens. One of the saddest times I remember on here was when we 'lost' a member I really valued. :'( His kiddos were withholding his grand children from him for leaving. So, he went back. It had nothing to do with believing, he just wanted his family more than he valued his freedom. It does happen but it's rarely ever for believing in the vomit the org spews; it's for family, friends or a sense of belonging.
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Hey everyone
by coffee_black inpopping in to say hi.... been away from the forum for a long time.... had some serious health issues starting at the beginning of this year.
on the mend now, and getting back into the swing of things.... great to be alive!.
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jeanniebeanzz
Hi there, similar situation here, glad you made it.
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Appealing a DF decision
by HereIgo ini always found it interesting that one could appeal a disfellowshipping....if jehovah doesn't make mistakes, then there wouldnt be a need to "appeal" anything to begin with right?.
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jeanniebeanzz
don't bother... it won't help... in fact it would make them see a 'spirit of unrepentence' and work against you. pfffttt... seriously, there is so much life outside of that narrow-minded little cult of neanderthals. walk away with your head held high and live your life. there is so much joy to be had once the veil is lifted and the chains are shattered. :)
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Final Rejection
by Disassociated Lady 2 ini have just returned from visiting friends and family.
when i was disassociated my parents had contact with me a few months before my dad was diagnosed with cancer.
i was reinstated 20 months after his funeral and then they disfellowshipped me 5 months later as they are convinced i had not changed my life enough to be a jw again.
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jeanniebeanzz
I have come to the conclusion that people who treat you like this are mentally ill. It may not be a condition from birth, but the mind has become corrupted and enflamed by a dark belief system. My advice, us this as an opportunity to teach your son exactly why you left and why he should stay away. Don't go back... not even for a funeral... why should you? They don't give a shit about you of your kiddo... live your life and don't look back.
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Why are there still so many of humanity that are immersed onto the lies, ignorance and delusions of religion ?
by Finkelstein inall religions under critical examination has been recognized inherently as formative lies devised to appeal to human emotions and as a means to cultivate power and control for a select propagating few.
knowledge acquired through scientific inquiry and evaluation has proven that all religious adherence was mostly drawn out human ignorance targeted toward the emotions and consciousness of people.
here we are in the 21 century and people like the jws are still adhering to the lies of christianity and how this religion developed over time.
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jeanniebeanzz
"Why are there still so many of humanity that are immersed onto the lies, ignorance and delusions of religion ?"
Because self-aware entities do not want to die and cannot, for many, come to grips with it. It 'feels right' to believe in the supernatural because death feels so unnatural. Basically, we think too highly of ourselves.
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If a JW Came To Your Door How Would You Handle It?
by minimus injehovah's witnesses have never come to my door but they have come to my girlfriends door.
i have coached her as to what to say or ask but it appears that they always seem to come when she's not there.
.....just curious would you get into it with a jehovah's witness at your door especially if it was someone you did not know?.
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jeanniebeanzz
minimus used to drive us all crazy, all us old timers... deez questions are not questions... they are kicking the hornets nest. lol *we love you minimus*