Posts by ammo

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What allows parents to shun their children ?

by man in black in

my son, went to college and got his bachelors degree.

he started his own anmation company about two years ago, and it really has taken off.. while my wife and i were witnesses, we both received grief about allowing our son to go to college, but we stood up for him and backed his decision to attend 110%.. anyway, this past week he finally closed on a very nice, neat condiminium .. and while he is getting ready to move out on his own, i have quite a few feelings of sadness,as a parent, seeing him move on is kinda rough, but realizing that this is a very good thing for him makes it easier.

he will only be about 7 miles away.

ammo

Man in Black, what a loving thoughtful dad/parents you both are, you've given your child the best gift of all... unconditional love.

Ditto Jamiebowers, its been 2 years since I even heard from my mum,on an off over 20 years, all because of the rules its not love its very cruel.

There's a petition on Change.org in regard to jw's and shunning, launching an investigation into it, and the effects on people, its up to 2,500 signatures now if anyone wants to add to it.

don't know how to paste copy etc

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List Reasons Why You Are Glad That You Are Out Of The JW Religion

by minimus in

jw
friends

here's a few from me.. no more having to go to stupid boring meetings.. no more having to go knock on doors in field service and waste my time!.

no more mind numbing elders meetings..

ammo

Seeing this world in a whole new light.

Not living in fear of the big A, EVERYTIME I heard the news.... 'Ohhhh its a sign, its a sign!'

Leaving a marriage where we should of just been friends, and instead ended up being just angry and frustrated with each other, because we stupidly followed advice from elders to marry, or stop seeing each other,- that one still make's me cringe how dumb were we !.... We are now FRIENDS and will reamain that way.

Starting a diploma yesterday in Community Services and feeling proud in the fact that I will be able to do something real towards helping humans and myself, and not feeling like its because of spiritual weakness or worldly/satanic bS dragging me away from the borg.

Feeling healthier and way more positive about this life, being on an even keel way more mentally, thankful instead of fearful.

Having compassion for JW's now, initially I was so angry at them..... Really I was angry at me for being so gullible

Being alot less judgemental and hopefully with new skills learnt, I will become a much more rounded person, smoothing off those edge's!!

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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

by cofty in

yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

ammo

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JWs Writers deserve to be in THE GUINNESS WORLD RECORDS!

by abiather in

how many mistakes one can make in understanding a simple statement of jesus?

take one sample statement:.

i say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with abraham, isaac and jacob in the kingdom of heaven.

ammo

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The Biggest Fear From The Watchtower Organization Is ???

by minimus in

jw
friends

i think the organization is worried most about how jws will stay loyal to their families even as it rejects the admonition of the gb and elders..

ammo

That those crazy mentally diseased apostates with soooo much bitterness and empty live's.......

just might be onto something.

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Laughter is a good medicinehere are some!

by abiather in

jw
friends

there were 3 good arguments that jesus was black:.

1. he called everyone brother.

2. he liked gospel.

ammo

Love it!!

X

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Prayers that God answers. Any examples?

by punkofnice in

when i believed in god i tried not to pray for anything selfish.. after a while i began to think that a lot of things i was asking my imaginary friend in the sky for were selfish for some reason.. i do not ever remember a single thing i prayed for ever being answered.

if there was the appearance of an answer it was because i did mental gymnastics to make it fit the delusion that god had actually answered me.

there was never an obvious message/answer from god.

ammo

At the risk of being ridiculed, I'll answer your question.....

I hate to say it because it does seem to open up a can of worms, and its so easy to read stuff people have experienced and say 'yeah right'

I was living in NZ at the time,and was down out and blubbering, I prayed to godto hear me and help me, withing minutes there was a knock at the door and a circut overseer, his wife and another witness were there I had lived there 2 years previously and never had a JW at the door, we were going camping near a place called whangarei and I desperately wanted to, after talking to them, find a khall up there, we drove around for a good half hour or more trying to find a phone book intact, than decided to stop at the servo and get some ice-the cold watery kind-and while my man was in there I said 'ok jehovah if you want me to know you, you have to show me where you are' well as I finished saying that i looked to the street corner we were on it said the name of the street and under it was kingdom hall Jehovahs witnesses. It freaked the both of us out, and I will never forget it, I think that and a few other 'personal experiences' was why it was so hard to let it go, I was not someone that just heard other people's tale's I actually experienced it. of course now after 2 years out and never going back, I have had to realise that shit happens and you just can't explain it.

Nowadays

I think of Tim Minchins song 'thank you god for fixing the cateracts of sams mum' and have to agree.

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This site has been going for 13 years. Did you ever at one point fear armageddon?

by ILoveTTATT in

jw
friends

i am just wondering about all of you who have been on this site for long.

in all of the events that have happened since 2000 (for example, september 11th), have you at any point, even you die-hard apostates, felt like "oooh sh!t... i should go back to the kh"... just to have the world survive the latest disaster?.

what was the worst event for you, in terms of saying... "did i mess up???

ammo

If and when I very rarely do have doubts.. I come here, I go to JW FACTS, I read, it soon dispells any gaslit fears that may surface.

We can hear things that trigger once held deeply rooted beliefs, but as soon as you start reading about all the false declarations of their precious truth and match it up with what you read on these 2 site's alone well...... They Got Nothing!!

BTW, thanks JWN and JWFACTS!

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To the gullible jw who beleive (worship) the GB

by bobld in

jw
friends

in this weeks wt study p20 para 17 the gb directive in part says "all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive,whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not".

it behooves me,how anyone would obey such an organization,when you were told to preach and exhort people with a message(bible doctrine) for over a hundred years(and not question the message or the gb) only to find out the message was false.see wt july 15,2013 p8.-great tribulation did not begin in 1914.judgement of the sheep and goats did not begin in 1914.jesus arrival to appoint the faithful slave did not occur in 1919.wt 1984,1914 the generation that will not pass away.. in your clean christian conscience are you willing to obey such a vacillating organization.the proper thing to do is resign from this organization.

go apolize to the people for misleading them with a false message(doctrine).go preach the true gospel of jesus christ..

ammo

I have just had this conversation with 2 jws I have not seen for 4 years, it was confronting and felt uncomfortable but when they pulled out the bible and started preaching about who really is the faithful and discreet slave, being the GB, well thats when I had to pull out the false prophecies, doctrine's even showing them John 7.53s deletion from the new bible..... their response... The light keeps getting brighter, REALLY?

Actually you just have to feel sorry for the poor buggers that are so far indoctrinated with this vast buffet of bullshit.

Its not even satisfying letting jw's know ttatt, as sadly it was initially when I found out the ttatt. It now just make's me sooo bloody thankful I'm out, free and sane!!

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The Greatest Show On Earth - A Book Summary In Many Parts

by cofty in

it was a number of years after i left the watchtower that i finally admitted to myself that i had never really investigated evolution.. i thought i was already an expert on the subject despite everything i knew about it coming form a source that was attacking the theory.

when i began to reserch evolution objectively i was astonished by the breadth an depth of the evidence.

i have been reading books and articles on the subject for around ten years now and always find it to be fascinating and inspiring.. a couple of years ago i began to write a summary of dawkin's book on the jws forum with the intention of helping any lurking jws who could not dare be seen reading the book for themselves.

ammo

Thank you for taking the time to put all this down.

It makes lot of sense.

I will be ordering a copy of The Ancestors Tale, the way you have put all this together is not only easy to grasp (well kind of) it makes me want to explore the whole evolutionary process..... very very interesting.