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  Serv. Mtng DEMO from last week: How would a "real" householder respond?

  by Open mind in

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  my wife and i call in to the cbs/tms/sm once or twice a month and only listen to the announcements.

  last week the announcements included a demo of a jw woman trying to peddle mags to a female householder.

  her intro went like this:.

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  If he looked like Brad Pitt in Troy......... I'd say WELCOME!
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  What does faith mean to you?

  by exwhyzee in

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  we all memorized the definition of faith... faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for...yadda yadda.. it seems like more and more as time goes by and our scientific knowledge base grows, we need less and less faith and fewer things can be attributed to god.. do you think we need faith or is faith just a word we use to feel ok about being too lazy to keep looking for the answers ?.

  what does faith mean to you now?.

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  Cofty, Umm thanks read the Occams Razor, have started also the God Delusion.

  Interested one thanks for sharing that. Maybe I should just 'roll with it'

  Me thinks I have killed another thread and I did'nt even mention a dragon!
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  Not better than others

  by sinedie in

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  as jw's we are taught that we are better than others; that we are almost superior to them.

  after finding out ttatt, and realizing that others are actually smarter than me, i feel quite small and insecure about myself.

  how do i start friendships with people i knew (sort of) for years, who i was trying to convince that the end is coming soon?

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  Hi Sinede,

  Just be honest about it, and yes humor as well, I have had to 'explain' to my friends- (all 5 of them) that I made a mistake, I thought I would get bollocked in a big way but no, everyone was really cool about it, the truth is when I was in I really meant it, I never wanted others to feel less whatever because of my belief, but now I don't see it as the truth any more, I have to be truthful about that as well, don't be to proud to say you made a mistake, not that you sound like that anyway.

  Also I understand that you can feel like not the sharpest tool in the shed, read up, digest, and find out what really interests you, and go from there, nowadays I think most people would just be happy to have a good woman on their side who is not going to crap on them, judge them or belittle them.... take it from there and if you feel small and insecure somedays, well darlin most people in the world have those feelings, don't dwell, or feed it though. We all have something to give and enjoy your journey finding out what that is.

  I wish you all the best
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  MY FIRST POST

  by dazed but not confused in

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  Hey there Dazed,

  Welcome

  Ammo
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  What does faith mean to you?

  by exwhyzee in

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  we all memorized the definition of faith... faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for...yadda yadda.. it seems like more and more as time goes by and our scientific knowledge base grows, we need less and less faith and fewer things can be attributed to god.. do you think we need faith or is faith just a word we use to feel ok about being too lazy to keep looking for the answers ?.

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  This is my 3rd time trying to get on the last too were quite elaborate (and I have lost them) in detail so forgive me if this is not quite so.

  Cofty, and others you talk of faith and being a load of bullocks, fair enough but what would you of done on these occasions.

  !st time for me hearing "the Voice" I was 15 going to jump into my friends car going for a sunday drive/hoon I went to grab the door "NO" thats what I got, I went to grab it again"NO" long story short, I never got in that car my mates had an accident rolled down 'pokchop hill' just out of Palmerston North NZ, the side where I would of been sitting was wiped out to the point of me being 'toast' if I had been sitting there.

  The 2nd time I was on a RDO reading in bed 'the world according to garp' I was about 26 yrs old than fully engrossed in the book, when I hear "leave this house now, "Leave this house now, Leave this house now" I was so shit scared that i could not get out of bed, I stayed there till my flatmate got home and told him, he than admitted to me he was schizophrenic and that he had been feeling 'out of sorts' and had been feeling like hurting someone, he also shared with me that his ol man was the same and had stabbed his mum in the throat, he was in longbay jail at that time still serving. I cleared out that evening, I worked with him for 2 years I would of never expected him to of even had any mental issues, let alone the past he had had.

  The 3rd time for me was at 1.30 in the morning in Orewa NZ fast asleep I get piercing through my brain"get up, get up get out now,' than repeated

  ok I sat up my partner at that time was still sleeping, and nothing seemed odd, I walk down the hallway -nothing pull the door open and the lounge, dining room and kitchen are engulfed in flames, but not a big roar just like a crackle eating up the walls, The fireman when they did get there said due to the time we had been asleep 2.5 hrs we should of all just died of smoke inhalation, and no you could not smell or hear anything from the bedroom.

  I also when I was in my 20's wanted to learn about remedial/shiatsu massages and unblocking meridians etc, I did ok in this to the point where the lady that run the center- Double Bay Massage offered me some part-time work,- good clients- like Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman, etc I already had a fulltime job but really enjoyed this so said yes, things were going fine, one day a woman who was a regular came in I started the massage and remember going from happy as,to hearing, ('sick'can't breathe, very sick,) I was crying by the time I finished I asked her if she was ok, she told me she had just that day been diagnosed with Lung cancer and wanted to keep it to herself till her husbands 50th b/day was over that weekend.

  The next time I was massaging a very young, rich asian dude, things were ok till I picked up his hand and got 'MURDER MURDER MURDER" very loud and clear, most people you massage have their eyes closed and are pretty peaceful, he seemed relaxed till I picked up that paw of his and heard that he had one eye open and was looking at me, I was crapping myself but thought hey finish up and bail. I went back to the ol gal that run the place and told her what had happened she than told me he was a member of the triads(it was only than I was told about the missing little finger and yes his was missing) and what it meant in relation to triads.I only do friends and family nowadays.

  Now there have also been a couple of other experiences in direct relation to God, but these above experiences happened even before I really thought long and hard about God, I was not looking for any sign, life was great, and I had not been off my face on drugs at any of those times, even though I have taken drugs and gotten pretty shit faced at times, nothing ever happened than, even when looking and trying to get some answers.

  I am not putting this out there for people to bulloock me and tell me what a Loon I am. I am just wondering what would you put it down too, I don't consider myself special in anyway, infact after reading alot of the posts on this site with the work thats gone down in research I think I am rather dumb in comparisom, but I would put everything I own on these events happening and saving me. I am at a loss where I should stand in all this Logic, fact and reasoning tell me its BS, the very real personal experience I have had with this voice tells me otherwise, its abit like the JW thing knowing somethings up but what, than I read all those against post and think yeah but its just not that simple or explainable unless you have been there yourself.

  The thing is if I would of put it all down toa load of bullshit, or I'm going nuts, I very well may of ended up dead.

  It has always been the same male,calm clear voice, even if it has had a sense of urgency it never scared me, or even made me think 'F... what was that, it felt right to take heed.

  Now remember I'm not asking for abuse here just a little discussion on it all.
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  Blondie is awesome!!!

  by Sheep2slaughter in

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  i'm just sayin... blondie...are you a lawyer or investigator or what!?

  her/your weekly watchtower comments we won't hear at the watchtower indoctrination are amazing.

  so much work.

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  n Thanks Blondie
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  Just wanted to say...

  by tec in

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  ... how truly great this place is.. i have not been on many forums, but i think this one is unique and strong in a very important way.

  it is of course a support group for those exiting the wts, or trying to deal with remaining within it, first and foremost.

  but the awesome thing about this place is how it welcomes everyone.

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  Tec,

  thanks thats how I feel. Change is hard, to remain civil whilst entertaining others points of view certainly enables me to take on the idea more than just deflecting the criticism, or engaging in insults of supposed lack of mental superioraty, or mental stability.

  Play nice in the sandpit=- I'm trying to, thanks for being a reasonable person tec its rather inspiring luv!
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  I have hired 2 more employees this week that are DF'd to go with my several jw employees...i am giving an amazing witness!!

  by oompa in

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  i had two new positions open up out of the blue recently and as luck would have it...for some reason i know a helluva lotta ex-jws lol!

  especially with two young and popular dfd sons who also hang with a lot of ex dubs...but that maybe is another thread....we are drawn to those with similarities very often and being an exjw is a pretty small club....and we left a true brotherhood to many and a network for sure to everyone else.

  so at work none of the non jws care for the jws and some have asked them to stop giving them paper crap and leave them alone...when one of them acted pissed that i had told some of the guys he would not ride with me to a jobsite lmao....of course they thought a new level of insanity had overtaken one of my normally great employees...so i told her "why would i not mention that to the shop guy/friends...im not ashamed of anything???".

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  Thats Inspiring Oompa !
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  You lucky people get an entire week without me....

  by EntirelyPossible in

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  when i close my laptop tonight, i am sleeping for a few hours, taking a plane to lax, going fishing off the coast of catalina, playing golf, going to bishop to go trout fishing for a few days, taking the redeye back, picking up my kids and taking them to the zoo.. so, when, shortly, i close my laptop, it will be roughly one week hence before you have the pleasure of my wit, comedy and all around general awesomeness.. have a hell of week, folks..

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  Yay F.... Off shitstirrer!

  whiney enough for you now?
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  A Kinder, Gentler Jehovah Emerges at the 2012 DC?

  by Socrateswannabe in

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  having attended this summer's district convention, i'm confused.

  has a kinder, gentler jehovah emerged?.

  acquiring an obedient heart-is it possible?

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  The Co over sunshine coast in qld australia gave a talk not far off that in Feb this year.

  I have not been back since the memorial and won't be attending again, but I did note that last talk of his I heard, and I did think what a gentle loving and upbuilding msg he had for everyone and maybe that the powers that be know they are sucking the life out of people and they may have to start treating them as human beings that make mistakes and beat themselves up, instead of robots thats just need some fine tuning through guilt and discipline.