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  Interview on YouTube with a former Bethelite who ended up homeless

  by RayPublisher in

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  2. experiences

  this is one of the most extraordinary interviews i've done on youtube to date and i'm not just saying that.. shawn "zen" dean shared his harrowing story with me of being raised in the jw "truth", going to watchtower farms and then getting his teaching degree only to end up homeless... lots of stories along the way, told with humor, sincerity and a heart full of love.. this is a tender-hearted guy that has had the ass-end of the stick his whole life... that's "the truth"!.

  http://youtu.be/ub1wx3yarf8.

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  Shocking WT Quotes

  by brotherdan in

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  An Open Letter to the Treasurer's Office

  by DNCall in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  watch tower bible & tract society of pennsylvania, inc.. treasurers office.

  gentlemen and ladies:.

  manifestly, you appreciate the value of marketing as can be seen by the launch of jw.org.

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  DNCall said, "...for computers and/or Internet access to those who cannot afford these necessary tools."

  Excellent opportunity to install keystroke recorders with imbedded links to headquarters. Perhaps they could offer free computers to all members, current and new, and install the same.
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  they died because they stayed

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to a video over at jwsurvey there was 3 congregations in the path of that supper typhoon that hit the philippines.

  the government had told people in these areas to get out but the jw's stayed for thier thursday night meetings and then spent the night in thier kingdom halls to weather out the storm.

  two of the 3 congregations even though their halls were destroyed they all survived but the third a hall in the worst hit area was not so lucky.

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  ... At that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not... 11/15/13 WT page 20, parag 17
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  Christian Social Influence Continues to Decrease

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. social
  2. current

  a popular sydney news reader died this week (of cancer, at age 73).

  the news reports from a number of sources were uniform in praising the man, both professionally and for his human qualities.. and, the obituaries all mentioned his partner:.

  ian ross and partner gray bolte at ross farewell from seven news in 2009. photo: courtesy of seven.

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  fulltimestudent said ," So that text (not part of the Bible canon when it was written) gives you the right to persecute another social group and to deprive them of their social rights, does it? Shame on you !!!!

  AFTERWHICH

  Zoos said `This trend can only snowball as the LogCon-types spit hate wads from the back row where they have been confined by decent human beings who demand a higher standard of conduct.

  Testy, testy and sensitive too, not to mention quick to jump to conclusions without any evidence to support your statementS.

  I MERELY QUOTED chapter and verse. I did not make a conclusion or judgement.

  THE SIN IS YOUR OWN !
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  Christian Social Influence Continues to Decrease

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. social
  2. current

  a popular sydney news reader died this week (of cancer, at age 73).

  the news reports from a number of sources were uniform in praising the man, both professionally and for his human qualities.. and, the obituaries all mentioned his partner:.

  ian ross and partner gray bolte at ross farewell from seven news in 2009. photo: courtesy of seven.

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  Romans 1:26-28

  For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

  What is so hard to understand about the above statement? Why would someone call themselves Christian and think that homosexuality is okee-dokee?
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  Rutherford Interviews about Beth Sarim

  by brotherdan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  but i thought it was very insightful as to the craziness of rutherford.

  in these articles, he is interviewed by the san diego sun and time magazine.

  i'd like to know what everyone thinks!

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  Ray Franz Emails: Part 2

  by brotherdan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is a second email from ray sent just a few months before he passed away:.

  dear daniel,.

  i can sympathize with you in the feeling of a measure of uncertainty that you experience.

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  Ray Franz Emails: Part 3 - Final

  by brotherdan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is the final email i received from ray prior to his death.. [if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:worddocument> <w:view>normal</w:view> <w:zoom>0</w:zoom> <w:trackmoves /> <w:trackformatting /> <w:punctuationkerning /> <w:validateagainstschemas /> <w:saveifxmlinvalid>false</w:saveifxmlinvalid> <w:ignoremixedcontent>false</w:ignoremixedcontent> <w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext>false</w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext> <w:donotpromoteqf /> <w:lidthemeother>en-us</w:lidthemeother> <w:lidthemeasian>x-none</w:lidthemeasian> <w:lidthemecomplexscript>x-none</w:lidthemecomplexscript> <w:compatibility> <w:breakwrappedtables /> <w:snaptogridincell /> <w:wraptextwithpunct /> <w:useasianbreakrules /> <w:dontgrowautofit /> <w:splitpgbreakandparamark /> <w:dontvertaligncellwithsp /> <w:dontbreakconstrainedforcedtables /> <w:dontvertalignintxbx /> <w:word11kerningpairs /> <w:cachedcolbalance /> </w:compatibility> <w:browserlevel>microsoftinternetexplorer4</w:browserlevel> <m:mathpr> <m:mathfont m:val="cambria math" /> <m:brkbin m:val="before" /> <m:brkbinsub m:val="&#45;-" /> <m:smallfrac m:val="off" /> <m:dispdef /> <m:lmargin m:val="0" /> <m:rmargin m:val="0" /> <m:defjc m:val="centergroup" /> <m:wrapindent m:val="1440" /> <m:intlim m:val="subsup" /> <m:narylim m:val="undovr" /> </m:mathpr></w:worddocument> </xml><!

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  dear daniel,.

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  This weeks study article.....seriously flawed and insensitive reasoning

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ok, so this weeks study article says the following:.

  14. how has jehovah been the rescuer of his people?.

  14 the psalmist david sang: i am helpless and poor; may jehovah pay attention to me.

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  Prefect said "...I thought the picture / photo on page 19 in todays study was insensitive."

  The purple triangles are just TOO clean and bright. [WT propaganda and fantasy]

  Purple triangles, AND clothes, tattered, torn, dirty [Reality]

  The dog doesn't look like an SS Nazi dog that's watching the ones he's trained to attack. He looks like he just had a big meal and is ready for a nap.

  Prefect also said , " ... AND were did the get the Nazi uniforms and the rifle from."

  The photo is an digital artists rendering, though real subjects would have posed.