Posts by WinstonSmith

Mrs Smith received an email today from a friend in another country who is also fading that had recently been to a one day assembly in April. After hearing about some of the info on this thread, he recalled some comments he recorded in his notes. The speaker read 1 Thessalonians 5:14 and said "Up until now disorderly ones were considered to be those rebelling against God's laws. We have to remember that this can also include laziness and those who are inactive. These ones deserve our patient encouragment. They need our loving care. Sometimes these inactive ones say hurtful things to the elders. Elders must remember to return evil with evel to no-one."

We have asked him for more details such as who said it and what their rank is. It probably has nothing to do with the Feb 2013 school but aligns with some things that have been mentioned. He may have jumped the gun or maybe it was part if a foundation laying exercise.

All speculation and conspiracy theories of course, but fun nonetheless!

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The Governing Body intends to announce significant changes in academic literature (DOCTRINES) - Brazil

by Dogpatch in

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dear randall.

good morning!.

here is the daniel of brazil (former bethel).. this week at the forum of former jehovah's witnesses had an interesting news!

WinstonSmith

"Expansion of its wind graphs" NOW I'M INTRIGUED!

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The Governing Body intends to announce significant changes in academic literature (DOCTRINES) - Brazil

by Dogpatch in

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friends

dear randall.

good morning!.

here is the daniel of brazil (former bethel).. this week at the forum of former jehovah's witnesses had an interesting news!

WinstonSmith

I spoke to one of our elders today who has recently completed the one week school. He said "It was great, and there is going to be a one day one in February next year." I guess it was mentioned at the week long school.

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2012 ICSA Conference The Ethics of Evangelism

by Lady Lee in

well the title of this caught me attention especially since so many ex-jehovah's witnesses think any kind of evangelism or preaching is bad.

so the idea that some evangelism might actually be good intrigued me.

i have refrained from adding comments how jws measure up to each of these.

WinstonSmith

@Designs: You are bang on there bro! Especially when the X keeps changing....

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The Governing Body intends to announce significant changes in academic literature (DOCTRINES) - Brazil

by Dogpatch in

jw
friends

dear randall.

good morning!.

here is the daniel of brazil (former bethel).. this week at the forum of former jehovah's witnesses had an interesting news!

WinstonSmith

Black Sheep: Great tactic. Get them pumped up on telling you how wrong you are and then reveal to them it has all changed. Again.

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2012 ICSA Conference The Ethics of Evangelism

by Lady Lee in

well the title of this caught me attention especially since so many ex-jehovah's witnesses think any kind of evangelism or preaching is bad.

so the idea that some evangelism might actually be good intrigued me.

i have refrained from adding comments how jws measure up to each of these.

WinstonSmith

Hi Lady Lee,

Thanks for sharing and bumping the thread. Our different timezones meant I missed it when it first came up. Glad to catch it now!

Reading through that list reminded me of the first time I read the BITE criteria. There is so much that is instantly identifiable with the way things are done to get people studying and then held in the confines of the Society.

This will be a useful tool in the arsenal. Things like this are good to show someone to get them thinking.....

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The Governing Body intends to announce significant changes in academic literature (DOCTRINES) - Brazil

by Dogpatch in

jw
friends

dear randall.

good morning!.

here is the daniel of brazil (former bethel).. this week at the forum of former jehovah's witnesses had an interesting news!

WinstonSmith

I picked up on the same thing as SIAM in the WT study a couple of weeks ago when they flagged possible changes in the ministry. The way it was dropped into the paragraph / article seemed to me like it was there just so they could refer back to it in the future and say something like 'as mentioned in the X article, sometimes there is a need for change. That is why we will now <insert change>'

Just speculation though. If it is real and is major enough to warrant a one day 'lets all get our stories straight' indoctrination day, it may also be an opportunity for some faders to hasten their exit with a 'wow this is major and has rattled me I need some time out' tack.

We'll just have to wait and see what's up!

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Elder's School 2012any news?

by Londo111 in

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i have heard rumblings that this has started up in some places.

i know there are some awakened elders on here who often provide good intel.

in light of all the juicy things that have happened in the last year, especially the conti case, i think many of us here are pining to hear any bit of news, so it would be much appreciated!.

WinstonSmith

The week long schools are kicking off in our area at the moment. The first notification of this was quite a while ago, back when I was serving as an elder (almost a year ago). I was was glad to miss out on this! A week is a massive commitment, and annual leave is precious. I can't help but feel sorry for the many self employed bros that will have to forgo a week of income with no holiday pay in order to attend.

Of course they will be expected to be grateful for the wonderful spiritual banquet....

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Scholastic Dishonesty - June 2012 Awake - Jewish Exile Timeline

by Ultimate Reality in

the june 2012 awake has another article on the exile of the jews by the babylonians.

once again the wt quotes dishonestly.. .

from page 14:.

WinstonSmith

What strikes me about this is that in all the public talks we hear and WTS books we read, the accuracy, the exactness and the detail of prophecy are emphasised. Yet here they are happy with 'corresponds closely'.