Posts by WinstonSmith

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Intro/fellow abuse survivor

by jwabusesurvivor in

im new to the site, as my username implies i am an abuse survivor, it was more then sexual, it was a very horrific type of abuse and no surprise the jw's that were involved were and still are being protected.

i have found posts here to be encouraging and glad to see i am not alone in my struggle and my fight.. i have a constant struggle/battle with emotional and mental health issues from the many many years of abuse but i am a fighter and try to keep on going, but am so glad to have found this site, it seems to be a source of encouragement :).

WinstonSmith

Welcome to you, our new friend!

Sorry to hear that you have had an awful experience. I am certain that here you will find plenty of kindness and understanding.

Stay strong, fight on.

WS

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Help please, The original letters on both sides of rutherford taking over by force, and court documents/etc of the real reason he was jailed

by EndofMysteries in

anybody know offhand where i can download those?

part of my project :) i think he just printed in the golden globe or something about the takeover, if so i have access to that.

but unsure where to get the pamphlet the brothers unjustly kicked out had published.

WinstonSmith

EoM: I have sent it all to my Readability account to look through and digest over the next few days.

Funny how the nice guys get trampled on, this too seems to be another key part of JW history.

Keep up the good work!

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The New Diary of Winston Smith

by WinstonSmith in

we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

WinstonSmith

We took another step in the fading process today. Had a nice brunch with some guys I used to work with, their partners, and a guy who works with me. Such a good time, talking about movies, work, life, travel. Good fun. It was nice to have a normal conversation!

These guys and their partners are the base of our new circle of friends outside of the congregation.

Little by little....

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A Note from Randy/Dogpatch (Freeminds)

by Lady Lee in

jw
friends

this past week randy was hospitalized.

he is now home recovering and has asked me to let you know that he will need a couple of days to recuperate.

in the mean time: if you have sent him emails or want to send him an email, it might take a couple of days for him to respond.. feel free to leave messages here for him.

WinstonSmith

Thanks for the info Lady Lee.

To our bro Randy: All the best for a speedy recovery. We hope you are back on your feet soon!

Mr and Mrs Smith

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The New Diary of Winston Smith

by WinstonSmith in

we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

WinstonSmith

Hi Joe! Great to hear from you mate :-)

Did anyone else notice this in the WT study for today: The scripture that was used to show that those with a heavenly hope and those with an earthly hope must live up to the same standards, states quite clearly that there is only one hope? (April 15th 2012 Study Edition WT, page 11 paragraph 3)

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Help please, The original letters on both sides of rutherford taking over by force, and court documents/etc of the real reason he was jailed

by EndofMysteries in

anybody know offhand where i can download those?

part of my project :) i think he just printed in the golden globe or something about the takeover, if so i have access to that.

but unsure where to get the pamphlet the brothers unjustly kicked out had published.

WinstonSmith

This is excellent, thanks for bringing this up EndofMysteries. Another example of the WTS sanitising their past. They have done such a good job of this that this is the first time that I, and I am sure many others haved heard the other side of the story about the famed imprisonment.

I see some similarities too with the Conti case. Some JWs say they know about the case, but their conversation shows they have not read the court docs. They say 'Why is the WTS being punished, they didn't abuse her!?' which shows they don't understand that it was the WTS policies that were being called into question.

What I find especially interesting here is that most JWs would use the the 'he printed it because he obeys God as ruler rather than men' when in fact the truth is Rutherford folded and tried to remove the offending information. Perhaps his lawyer-sense trumped the direction of 'the spirit'......?

The info you have presented above needs to be spread far and wide. Perhaps those with websites and blogs will find this useful.

Great work team, more info to show that this is an organisation of book publishing men, and in no way spirit directed.

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The New Diary of Winston Smith

by WinstonSmith in

we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

WinstonSmith

FadeToBlack: Yeah mate, I was gutted, but in the bigger picture of things, it was the best thing to do. As mentioned earlier, I was always very careful and know there was nothing incriminating on there, but wanted to cover all bases. Later on I will explain more about what happened. Good to hear that your wife missed the meeting. Like I said above, it takes little steps to win the war, maybe sharing some apples is the first step. As I post on here, I hope that there is something that you might be able to use to get that spark going.

The Truth is Mine: Wow, that is amazing! I think it was Phizzy who once said to me that the truth is a house of cards, and it only takes one thing to begin bringing the house down. The question of whether we should stay because JWs are 'such nice people' crossed our minds too, but the way it all creeps into every part of your life without knowing is quite chilling. The programming goes deep and can take a while to undo. I said Happy Birthday to someone for the first time in my life recently, and had such rush of adrenalin afterward that I had to stop take a moment to realise how silly it all is. Twisting and lying in order to wangle things to your advantage is deplorable. Making people feel bad for asking honest questions is even worse.

Braincleaned: Thanks for the PM, I replied just before. Sorry to hear about your experience. It never fails to amaze me that JWs say they don't break up families, but it is often them that cause all the trouble and drama. One of Mrs Smiths concerns was that I was going to leave her or that she would have to leave me. I said to her "Why would I leave? My feelings toward you have not changed in the slightest, my feelings about the Society however..." Our plan is to eventually be inactive too. We are going to wind things back in the congregation that we are in, and then move to another congregation where we will be inactive, or one of "those hopeless ones that only come now and then" I will check out the FaceBook link you mentioned. I love George Orwell. If you are in to comparisons, check out one of my other threads on Animal Farm and the WTS: http://jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/226069/1/Some-observations-on-Animal-Farm-by-George-Orwell

Stay cool everyone B-)

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The New Diary of Winston Smith

by WinstonSmith in

we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

WinstonSmith

RayPublisher: Bro, thank you for your comments! Thank you too for sharing your ongoing story here. There are no doubt many that have benefitted from it. It is a brave thing to open up the rawness to others as you have done. Much, much respect to you sir. You will always have a special place in my JWN experience - after I joined and posted for the first time, you were the first person to send me a PM. Stay strong brother, stay true.

PanHandleGirl: Ha ha, I finally got around to reading some Dan Brown lately and felt inspired to hide something 'in plain sight' :-D

PaintedToeNail: Sorry to hear that this has been your experience so far. Please remember that this is a battle for minds, and it can only be won a few inches at a time. It can be tough going, but tiny bit by tiny bit, you can make an impact. You never know what might come from a well timed innocent question. Mrs Smith told me that after I casually mentioned the transplant thing, she frantically looked up the publications to prove me wrong, but saw the reality in black and white. This was when the veneer began to peel for her. Hang in there, and keep us up to date.

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The New Diary of Winston Smith

by WinstonSmith in

we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

WinstonSmith

PanHandleGirl: It is good to be back! Nice to have a warm welcome from everyone :-) Looking forward to posting more and sharing info.

00DAD: Hi bro! We are more committed than ever to fading out of this. Little by little is our motto. How are thing with your son? Never give up my friend.

Clarity: The future has a whole new meaing when you learn the truth about the truth. So very happy that Mrs Smith is awake too. I can't imagine what it would be like to do this alone, and have huge respect for those who do. :-P is an emoticon of someone poking out their tongue. I post from an iPad and the ones like you used in your post don't come up properly for me so I have to type them the old fashioned way ;-) And yes, there are some crazies on here, but they all contribute to the fabric that is the human experience.....

Conceptual99: Cheers mate, just replied!

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For Recovery: A discussion about the Great Crowd and the Other Sheep

by Londo111 in

recovery,.

as requested, a discussion on the great crowd and the identity of the other sheep.. .

first question: where are the great crowd rendering sacred service day and night?.

WinstonSmith

Bump.

There is a perfectly good thread going here, with some good dialogue, yet it is being ignored, and a new thread on pretty much the same subject has been started.

There are still a lot of unanswered questions here. Some might say " I am glad onlookers can see how no one will address the points and most people are simply not interested 'in the truth about the truth'." (quote from Recovery in his post #201)

Everyone is welcome to believe what they want to believe, but reviewing different points of views and coming to their own conclusions. Threads like this are a way people can learn about different points of view, so let's keep it going not "for the sake of exJws" but "for the sake of JWs" (another quote from Recovery in his post #201)