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The New Study

by Beans in

dear brothers and sisters:.

as the new flock moves ahead into the generation of apostacy are we as brothers and sisters helping each other?

if there were an apostfest would it not be right to perhaps pick up a brother or sister who may not have transportation and is in need of a pint?.

Another fly enters the spider's web

by Quotes in

jw
friends

i received the following email to my quotes address, which was apparently prompted by a page at my website (http://quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com/bible_errors.htm): i am ot sure i understand.

it was stated that the bible has all kinds of mastakes in it because it was wrote by humion hands.

then i feel i am wasting my time studing it with your people because they tell me the bible is wright and how would i know what it right in it or wrong so i will stop my studt tommrow when they come.

Quotes

I received the following email to my Quotes address, which was apparently prompted by a page at my website (http://quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com/bible_errors.htm):

I am ot sure I understand. it was stated that the Bible has all kinds of mastakes in it because it was wrote by humion hands. Then I feel i am wasting my time studing it with your people because they tell me the Bible is wright and how would I know what it right in it or wrong so I will stop my studt tommrow when they come. Thank you for you time in this matter

Another person thinks that I am The Society -- they are studying with "my people". At least he/she read enough to get a good dose of cognitive dissonance. Not wanting to appear rude, I sent a reply. And not wanting to take a chance that the people he/she is studying with can talk their way out of the "errors in the bible" quote, I gave him/her a few other things to think about:

Thanks for taking the time to write to us. The subject of your message was "question" but you did not include a question in your message. However, you did mention the statement that was published by the Watchtower Society regarding "errors in the bible". This is not the only unusual, interesting, or significant thing published by the Watchtower Society over the years. Some of these things were later renounced, some where not. Further attention to our website will reveal such gems as:
belief that Blacks are inferior to Whites but can turn their skin white if they pray enough
belief that God resides on the star Alcyone in the Pleiades star cluster
belief that the Great Pyramid in Egypt is " God's Stone Witness "
belief that Aluminium Cookware is poisonous and cancer causing
belief that a raped woman is guilty of fornication if she does not scream
instruction that a wife is NOT entitled to a scriptural divorce if her husband commits homosexual acts
belief that masturbation leads to homosexuality
predicting the end of the world would come in 1914 , 1925 , 1975
saying that Jesus' invisible presence began in 1840 , 1872 , 1874 , 1878 , 1914 , 1918 , 1925 , 1975
meanwhile, while delivering the above "spiritual food", The Watchtower Society chose for itself the titles " God's Channel " and " God's Prophet " and " God's Organization " -- lofty titles indeed!
becoming officially (but secretly) associated with the United Nations , an organization they publicly denounce as "the disgusting thing of Daniel's Prophecy"
Please be sure ask about these things to the Sisters that are studying with you. But before you do, you should be aware that, according to the Watchtower's definition, a lie is only a lie if the person being lied to has a " right to truthful information ". So if they feel that you don't have a right to truthful information, they can lie to you without guilt. If we can be of further help, please let us know! Yours very truly, [email protected]
http://Quotes.JehovahsWitnesses.com

Edited by - Quotes on 24 August 2002 15:24:49

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The Watchtower's answer to any problem

by radar in

jw
friends

study,prayer and the ministry.

of all the shepherding calls that i know of, and no matter what the problem the flock may have encountered, essentially the same advice was given.

most elders have neither the experience or understanding or right to judge personal matters such as marital concerns or child abuse.

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From "Why Jehovahs Witnesses have mental problems" (http://www.premier1.net/~raines/mental.html) :

To refer patients to the elders, virtually none of whom have formal training in psychology, therapy or human behavior, is often a drastic mistake. When the writer suggested to a male Bethelite who was going through severe depression to talk to the elders, his response was "Do you think a janitor and a brush salesman are going to help me with my emotional problems?" As has been well documented, elders tend to feel that the solution to every problem is to pray, study more, and trust in Jehovah. Besides, they feel the guilt over whatever emotional problems one is suffering from are likely due to some sin or shortcoming on the victim's part. In my experience, the elders often do more harm than good, which is what we would expect: putting people who have not only no training, but a false view of humanity and a distorted perception of reality in charge of an emotionally disturbed person could well be lethal--as it sometimes is.

Edited by - Quotes on 23 August 2002 17:53:36

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what did you miss in order to attend meetings?

by jack2 in

jw
friends

for me, it was the nfc championship game three years ago in order to attend the meeting, then, on top of that, the elders had *scheduled* a meeting for that day as well, to discuss the co visit.

then there was a "supplemental" elder's school held a few years back that took me away from the afc title game.

oh, i taped the stuff, but time-shift recording of sports just doesn't cut it.

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While in Middle School, I was in the Band (1st Trombone) -- no doubt because it was non-competitive, unlike sports. Now this school was serious about it's music program, and if my dad acknowledged that, maybe I would not have been allowed. Fortunately he never figured it out.

The practices were:

Monday 7:30AM to 8:30AM

Wednesday 7:30AM to 8:30AM

Thursday 6:30PM to 9:00PM UH OH!!!! Thursday nights were also.... BOOK STUDY NIGHT (and our home was privileged to be a Book Study location) from 7:30PM to 8:30PM

So, for two years, I had to leave band practice 30 minutes into what was supposed to be a 2.5 hour session to go home for the Book Study. What a drag! What a waste! What an embarrassment to be the only one to bail out on my team! It was worse than standing in the hall during National Anthem, because in this case I was deserting the team.

One Thursday per month I was permitted to stay for the entire band practice. Yes, sometimes my parents were dangerous rebels!

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Words we no longer use

by sleepy in

jw
friends

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what are some words and phrases we no longer use (except when writing here) that we used to use as witnesses.. heres some,.

theocratic, other crowd, this system of things, new order

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Here are a few with my Post-JW translations:

JW ------------------------------------------------------ Post JW translation and/or definition

field service ----------------------------------------- door knocking

Jehovah ----------------------------------------------- Jahoobie

Faithful and Discreet Slave ------------------- cult leaders

The Society ---------------------------------------- the cult, the publishing corporation

The Organziation -------------------------------- the cult, the publishing corp

last Saturday in the month ------------------ yet another day to enjoy life

blood transfusion ------------------------------- life saving medical procedure

remnant, annointed --------------------------- old timers who think they are special

spiritual food ------------------------------------- crap, books and magazines, propaganda, cult indoctrincation material

unspiritual ---------------------------------------- fun stuff you now can enjoy, like art, culture, career, socializing

worldly carreer ---------------------------------- doing what you want and making the most of it

ministerial servant ---------------------------- low level cult official

elder ----------------------------------------------- mid-level cult official

Circuit Overseer ------------------------------ high-level cult official

District Overseer ----------------------------- higher level cult official

Zone Overseer -------------------------------- really high level cult official

Bethel ------------------------------------------- The Compound

bethelite ---------------------------------------- cult member privileged to live in THE COMPOUND

Pioneer ----------------------------------------- more involved cult member, more cultish than basic members

publisher --------------------------------------- cult follower

roving mics ----------------------------------- tool used to permit cult followers to TESTIFY!!!!, forced labour

prayer ------------------------------------------ pretentious attempt to talk to Jahoobie

The World ------------------------------------ All art, culture, and 99.9% of the people, the cult has TARGETED FOR TERMINATION

The United Nations ----------------------- Doing the best they can with the tools they've got... oh yeah, and they have a great library too!

This Wicked System of Things ----- my friends and neighbours, my government, CIVILIZATION

Gog of Magog ----------------------------- ???????????? There is a Magog in Ontario, Canada, if that helps ???!!!!

Armageddon ------------------------------- Music album

Wicked Spirits ---------------------------- figment of cult leader's imagination, boogey-man

Brooklyn ----------------------------------- Borough of NYC, not as nice as Manhatten, nicer than Queens?

Edited to add:

apostate ---------------------------------- former member smart/lucky enough to escape the cult; ME

Edited by - Quotes on 22 August 2002 12:22:46

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`SPIRITUAL FOOD'

by badboy in

jw
friends

this expression is of pagan origin,being used in connection with pagan egyptian funeral rites!.

the`spiritual food' was depicted on burial chamber walls in the belief that the pharoahs could eat the food depicted!.

source;patterns in prehistory.

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Is this the book? If so, this is great stuff. Page number would be nice, though.

Patterns in Prehistory: Humankind's First Three Million Years by Robert J. Wenke Paperback - 712 pages 4th edition (February 1, 1999)
Language: English
Oxford Univ Pr (Sd); ISBN: 0195085728

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Should JWS honeymoon?

by badboy in

jw
friends

i understand this custom is of pagan origin.

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According to http://www.brideandgroom.com/tradition.htm:

THROWING RICE
Throwing rice over newlyweds originated from the ancient Pagan rite of showering the happy couple with grain to wish upon them a 'fruitful' union. Pagans believed that the fertility of the seeds would be transferred to the couple on whom they fell.

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YOU KNOW says "IT's A CONSCIENCE MATTER"

by minimus in

jw
friends

yesterday i asked you know and yardif why they frequent these apostate sites.i asked this question: "how do you justify coming on these boards?".

you know's answer:"the way i understand it, it is a conscience matter.

" when i asked whether he was serious, he replied:"i am serious".when i asked him for further clarification, he suddenly vanished from the conversation.

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Big Tex's point is correct, and similar things have been published in the WT: Prayer is a privilege that not all have.

You Know, Yadirf, WHO DO YOU PRAY TO?

Edited by - Quotes on 22 August 2002 11:21:10

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The Meeting Clothes I Left Behind

by dobby in

jw
friends

this past weekend my husband and son and i went to stay with my jw in-laws.. it was a pleasant weekend.

they were a little subdued this weekend, i think the assembly got to them and they seemed less open to discussing our feelings about the wt.. a very interesting thing happened as we packed to go on sunday morning.

i was in the guest room folding clothes into our suitcase when my father-in-law tapped on the door.

Quotes

dobby, I really enjoyed reading your post.

BTW, let me be the first to say (4 months early) SEASONS GREETINGS!!!!

[commence Dr. evil laughter now]

10

Programs of all main conventions 1969-2001

by Aaac in

jw
friends

some "brother" has collected programs of all main conventions 1969-2001. anyone find this interesting for your studies about wt?

any speeches before 1975 interesting?

(i had no time for research).

Quotes

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[Quotes snores deeply in comfortable REM sleep after reading just the titles of these conventions which were meant to put the nations of the world on notice]