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  Amazing Google Maps image

  by Elsewhere in

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  i was looking around the area of my city and i found this amazing pit.

  it is an image of an aircraft and its shadow on the ground..

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  drwtsn32:
  
  The altitude of the satellite and the time of day will not be provided.
  
  State your assumptions clearly.
  
  Partial marks will be given for partial answer.
  
  You have 30 mintutes.
  
  Commence...... now.
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  Anyone recognise this 2005 Watchtower CD on Ebay?

  by nicolaou in

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  here's the link, you may have to cut & paste it into your browser; http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&category=16710&item=5577875725&rd=1.

  an individual mag' on a cd?

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  Make no apologies, No Apologies! ;)
  
  Can I assume that the MP3 version is distributed on a CD, same as the regular, red-book audio, PCM encoded CD? Perhaps, the difference is in the number of CDs required for the distribution?
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  blessing before meals

  by Raoul in

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  i am having some friends over for dinner in the near future who are jehovah's witnesses.

  is there anything i need to know before i ask the blessing over our food?

  i don't want to ruin our evening before it has begun.

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  Raoul, don't worry too much about the "repition prayer" thing.
  
  Yes, JWs, do give lip service to not having repititious prayers (that is why they don't repeat the Lord's Prayer, they say it is an example of HOW to pray, not boilerplate text for exactly what to say each time).
  
  But in fact, despite their rejection repitition, in my experience most elder's say pretty much the same prayer, over and over. Or at least, the same couple of prayers. My dad had the "meal time prayer" which was always almost exactly the same each time; he also had the "start the family study prayer" and the "meeting close" prayer. 80-90% of these prayers were identical; they remaining 10-20% was different between each scenario; but that portion was always the same within the same scenario.
  
  So don't worry about the prayer thing; they are as repititious as anyone else. Oh, and don't let them give you a hard time about your prayer. They expect other people to respect their religious beliefs, so you should demand they do the same when inside your house.
  
  Hey, ask them about why Watch Tower Society became affiliated as an officially recognized NGO (non-governmental organization) with the United Nations (their sworn enemy). Might make some interesting dinner conversation!
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  Kiss the son lest God be angry and you perish in the way

  by Quotes in

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  in another thread, quentin reminded us all of the lyrics to one of the kingdom songs: .

  "kiss the son lest god be angry and you perish in the way" .

  my question is: .

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  OOOOOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhhh.............
  
  So there was a lot of man-on-man action back then, what with the kissing, and the affections, and the hugs, and all these things.
  
  I guess that is why WTS is so paranoid about homosexual behaviour: with all that kissing, who knows what might develop! As we already know, masturbation leads to homosexuality, but I'm sure kissing other guys could play a part too!
  
  Again, I want to stress, "Not that there's anything wrong with that".
  
  OK, seriously, I think changing it to "lest God be angry" is pretty sneaky of WTS.
  
  ~Quotes, of the "Sorry that song made it from the pink to the brown song book" class
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  Amazing Google Maps image

  by Elsewhere in

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  i was looking around the area of my city and i found this amazing pit.

  it is an image of an aircraft and its shadow on the ground..

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  Great image!
  
  I've got a good one for you, also with an aircraft/airport theme:
  
  Click this link to see an airfield at the south end of the Disney World property:
  
  Mickey Pond From Air
  
  Talk about branding!
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  blessing before meals

  by Raoul in

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  i am having some friends over for dinner in the near future who are jehovah's witnesses.

  is there anything i need to know before i ask the blessing over our food?

  i don't want to ruin our evening before it has begun.

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  Hello Raoul, welcome to this discussion board.
  
  I would suggest you do whatever you would normally do when you don't have JWs as dinner guests.
  
  They are guests in your home, and should respect your traditions, if indeed you have any.
  
  If you normally pray, do it the way your normally would. If you don't normally pray before meals, don't.
  
  BTW, from your chosen post name at this board, does it have any relation to what you will be serving your dinner guests? (see Eating Raoul)
  
  ~Quotes, of the "God, we paid for this food, so thanks for nothing" class
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  Daniel's Prophecy, 605 BCE or 624 BCE?

  by Little Bo Peep in

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  hello all, i've been reading your site for a couple of years now, and have found, for the most part, it to be very helpful.

  i must say, at first i was very "scared" at what i might find, but contrary to what i grew up learning, there is a "wealth" of information outside of the watchtower organization.

  i haven't attended meetings for about two years now, and like many i've read about, have spent many hours researching, telling myself "i'm not wrong for searching", and doing more research.

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  I'm sorry to interrupt, but I just wanted to say I think it is silly the way some people (i.e. Gov Body, and their paid drones like Scholar) reject "worldly" chrnology because they think it differs with their "holy book" chronology -- or more correctly, it differs with their interpretation of their holy book's chronology.
  
  It is no different that how Bible Literalists (not JWs, in this example) reject any history of earth, which goes back more than 6000 years. A giant mountain of clear, corroborated facts demonstrate that the earth is more like 4.5 billion year old (give or take a few hundred million), but some people reject it because "the bible says god made the earth in 6 x 24 hour days, 6000 years ago. Any other explanation is false, flawed, and designed to lead people away from God".
  
  Of course, JWs, and I assume Scholar-wannabe, recognize that such literalism must be incorrect, and chide and mock those literalists. They laugh at how the Fundies can so easily dismiss facts, in favour of devotion to a blind, literal interpretation of Holy Writ. How? By saying that the bible didn't mean what it clearly said, when it said 6 days. The Days weren't really days. The bible fits, with "true science", as it should. Q.E.D.
  
  Until, of course, you point out that there is ALSO plenty of evidence for humans on earth more than 6000 years ago. Then the JWs suddenly are in the other camp; they reject "worldy science" and "human interpretaion" as "unreliable" compared to the literal interpretation of Holy Writ. Think about it: exactly same argument as the Fundies were using in my previous paragraph, except now JWs are on the other side of the fence. (At this point, I fully expect the Scholar-wanabees of the world to totaly not grasp the point and say "well of course, those creative days were symbolic periods of time of 1000s of years (i.e. accepting a non-literal interpretation) but the biblical geneology proves that man's history is only 6000 year old (i.e. demanding a literal interpretaion)" If you are about to say that Scholar, don't bother. You've totally missed the point. You've seen the trees, but missed the forest....again.)
  
  So it is not at all surprising that this wishy-washy mindset allows Scholar to maintain his DoubleThink so well. "539 is a pivotal date, clearly marked in scripture... every one agrees, the bible and worldly historians"... until that leads to a problem meshing an a priori chosen date (607bce) with the rest of the clear facts. Then it is "secular historians are wrong, confused, etc. Bible (literal interpretation) is the only correct history".
  
  To give yet another example: Mormons believe that Native Americans are descended from a tribe of Israel, which migrated to North America way back at the time of the fall of Jerusalem (I could be wrong on that date, but is was way, way back then). Only problem is: there is NO evidence to support this, and LOTS OF evidence to refute this. But the mormons still believe, because it is in HOLY WRIT (Book of Mormon), so it must be true.
  
  It is my understanding that a conversation with a Mormon "Scholar" looks much like this thread: a whole lot of rejection of established facts, cherry picking other facts, in order to derive a priori conclusions. Pointing out factual and/or logical errors to such a Mormon is pointless, because ultimately they believe at an emotion level, not a rational one. Emotion trumps logic, every time.
  
  I guess what I'm trying to say is: Scholar, you would make a pretty good Mormon. You should consider converting; they have better family lives than JWs, and generally more successful business. All around, a better experience. ;)
  
  ~Quotes, of the "probably just wasted 10 minutes writing this post 'cause Scholar won't understand" class
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  Kiss the son lest God be angry and you perish in the way

  by Quotes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in another thread, quentin reminded us all of the lyrics to one of the kingdom songs: .

  "kiss the son lest god be angry and you perish in the way" .

  my question is: .

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  In another thread , Quentin reminded us all of the lyrics to one of the kingdom songs:
  
  "Kiss the son lest God be angry and you perish in the way"
  
  My question is:
  
  What on earth did this line mean?
  
  I never EVER understood it.
  
  I think they are saying I should Kiss Jesus so Jahoobee doesn't get mad at me???
  
  But honeslty, "perish in the way"???? Is that even gramatically correct??? Who talks like that?
  
  And even when I loved Jesus, should I kiss him? I haven't even hugged my father since I was about 10. Why would I kiss Jesus? And should I kiss him on the lips? I don't swing that way (not that there's anything wrong with that).
  
  Can't I just shake his hand and say "Hey Jesus, I like you, lets go get a beer and talk about who is hotter: Ruth, or Jezebel"????
  
  ~Quotes, of the "shouldn't watch Seinfeld and post at JWD at the same time" class
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  Anyone recognise this 2005 Watchtower CD on Ebay?

  by nicolaou in

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  here's the link, you may have to cut & paste it into your browser; http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&category=16710&item=5577875725&rd=1.

  an individual mag' on a cd?

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  LMAO at nicolaou.
  
  Of course, my argument could even apply the mags (not just MP3 recordings of the mags). Why not have them available for PDF download?????????????????
  
  Obviously, the message is not *THAT* important. If it were, they would make it available for download. Imagine: Witchpower and Asleep! in PDF format.
  
  I predict it will never, ever happen. Why not? because this is not a religion, it is a (pulp and paper) publishing company. The medium (magazines) is the message (Marshall Macluhan was correct).
  
  ~Quotes, of the "$100million offset printer" class
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  Hey everyone! Look at me!

  by Justin Matton in

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  hey, i've been checking this site out for a few months and thought i'd start posting.

  my name is justin.

  i live in calgary, canada, just left the borg, as you guys call it, about 6 months ago.

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  As my father (who was raise in Calgary) would say: "HOWDY".
  
  Unless, of course, he know you where an EX-JW, in this case he would say " ".
  
  ~Quotes of the "Stampede" class