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  Apostates - blood on their hands?

  by slimboyfat in

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  don't you think the witness leaders would have given up the blood doctrine and 1914 by now had not apostates made such big things of them?

  haven't they been painted into a bit of a corner where, if they tried to adjust things on blood now, everyone would come down on them like a ton of bricks?

  if apostates were not so vigilant in watching the witnesses' every move, perhaps the governing body would have tried to drop the dubious doctrines by the back door, like so many others that they have discarded when they did not feel to closely watched (organ transplants, for example).

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  SBF, you are saying that "apostates" (i.e. current and former members) are responsible for the actions and policies of the leadership of JWs.
  
  Think about that for a minute. GB is not responsible for the actions of the GB; rather, former members are.
  
  Now, I'm not expert, but it seems to me this is the same mentality used by some wife beaters: It's not my fault I hit you, its just that *YOU* make me so ANGRY sometimes, and SO JEALOUS sometimes because I love you so much!!! Why do *YOU* *MAKE* *ME* hit you?
  
  It is sad and incorrect logic when used by wife-beaters, and equally sad and incorrect when proposed by you. Both wife beathers, and the Governing Body (a.k.a. sheep beaters) need to learn to take responsibility for their own actions.
  
  P.S. If you still think your logic is sound, I'm turning it around on you: Don't blame us former members for the way we behave: it's not our fault!!! Blame the GB!!! We are not responsible!!!
  
  ~Quotes, of the "not a therapist, but play one on TV" class
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  Apostates - blood on their hands?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  don't you think the witness leaders would have given up the blood doctrine and 1914 by now had not apostates made such big things of them?

  haven't they been painted into a bit of a corner where, if they tried to adjust things on blood now, everyone would come down on them like a ton of bricks?

  if apostates were not so vigilant in watching the witnesses' every move, perhaps the governing body would have tried to drop the dubious doctrines by the back door, like so many others that they have discarded when they did not feel to closely watched (organ transplants, for example).

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  SBF, does it HURT your BRAIN when you do those crazy mental gymnastics?
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  Does anyone else flip off the Kingdom Hall when they drive by?

  by Dustin in

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  2. friends

  so it has become habit for me to go out of my way when driving to make sure i can give it the finger as i drive by.

  i especially like to do this on the way to one of my favorite bars, especially on meeting nights just so people who knew me can see me do it.

  i don't know why, but this has become a tradition of sorts.

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  Glad to know I'm not the only one with this, um, problem. *whew*
  
  I've even got my wife doing it -- and she was never a JW. I'm usually all passive-aggressive about it and say in a cheery voice "Oh look, let's wave to our friends there..."
  
  I know I shouldn't; they are victims too.
  
  ~Quotes, of the "not responsible for the urine or used condoms left on the door step" class
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  Great Experiences- I was serfing the net ad came across APOSTATES

  by You People Are All Idiots in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  wow, yeah i was looking fr the theocratic ministry school oral review questions and i came across an apostate site!

  the site was www.jehovahs-witness.com and was just fill of retarded apostates!

  they were not only using a domain name and header name that denotes a conection with the actual watchtower society, but where using it to blasphem the jehovah's true organization in order to help people break away.

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  Only the irrational exuberance of youth could produce this type of post.
  
  Friend, thanks for stopping by, but it's a school night so you better get to bed! Oh, and don't let the door hit you on the way out!
  
  P.S. This is a site for people -- ANY PEOPLE, no restrictions, to talk *ABOUT* Jehovah's Witnesses. Obviously you are not familiar or comfortable with the free exchange of opinion and facts.
  
  P.P.S. If you don't like Jehovahs-Witness.com, you are *REALLY* going to hate my site: http://quotes.watchtower.ca/. It has accurate, verifiable quotes from the Watchtower Society, but it doesn't have ANY opinion or commentary. Just the sort of thing to reveal the true nature of the Watchtower Society.
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  Should dubs be hanging out in casinos?

  by unbeliever in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  mom and i went to have a bite to eat at one of her favorite restaurants which is in a casino.

  lo and behold as we were leaving in walks 5 of her dub friends who were going to eat at the same place.

  she was talking and talking and i got tired of standing there being ignored so i walked away and started playing the slots which was well in their eye site.

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  I believe it is OK so long as they are not tempted by the evils of gambling.
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  There is a place in town that has a GREAT lunch special. Roast beef for $7.99. Only problem is: it is a strip club. I hope to one day see pioneer brothers in there -- for the great food deal. Don't worry, it is OK so long as they are not tempted by the evils of.... pretty women. (i.e. as long as they don't personally get a table dance).
  
  ~Quotes, of the "No Arbitrary Distinctions" class
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  grissom-Introduce yourself!

  by Sparkplug in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know that you are new here, but have left yourself open to some comments.

  i have been curious as to why you post.

  do you have doubts?

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  Sparkplug asked:
  
  "Do you like a good fight?"
  
  Grissom's style is more consistent with a coward afraid to fight; that is why s/he takes a cheap shot, then runs off and hides. Then once everything has settled down, s/he returns to take another cheap shot.
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  607 bce ?

  by adversary in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi i am new to this forum and have been studying with the jehovah's .

  witnesses for about 8 months.

  i am considering becoming an unbaptized .

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  Welcome Adversary,
  
  I agree with you: the 607BCE date is a pivotal foundation point, and also that there is no evidence to support it, but plenty to support 587BCE.
  
  As already noted above my post, look to some LENGTHY, detailed threads for more info.
  
  Interestingly, even WTS own literature agrees in the 587BCE date on occasion (they have to tell the truth some of the time, eh?).
  
  I have summarized their dates which lead to 587BCE here: http://quotes.watchtower.ca/607bce-table.htm.
  
  ~Quotes, of the "if you can count, you know it was 587BCE" class
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  Aimee Satterfield - GUILTY

  by Nathan Natas in

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  2. scandals

  http://www.joplinglobe.com/story.php?story_id=195188&c=87

  false-rape claim case settled

  woman found guilty after no defense is presented; probation granted.

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  Talesin, I'm not sure I understand.
  
  Are you suggesting that possible she was raped by some in the KH, and then came up with this other "raped by the side of the road" story to cover for the Dub that raped her?
  
  An interesting possibility. Also, this plot would make an excellent episode of "Law & Order" (original series, of course).
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  Kristi died about 30 mins. ago

  by Frannie Banannie in

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  2. current

  for those of yall that didn't know, kristi was a 37-yr-old ms patient that i took care of for the last year of her life.

  she had a wonderful ribald sense of humor and talked like a sailor at times.

  but it was all to cover up the ultra-sweet and tender heart she had.

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  So sad, she sounds like she was a wonderful person. My sincere condolences.
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  Apocalypse Delayed hypocrisy

  by grissom in

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  2. friends

  in a post on this board, .

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/93777/1.ashx .

  there is criticism over the publication of the book, .

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  Grissom/Rambaldi:
  
  You have started several threads with posts that had interesting, discussable facts.
  
  Unfortunately (for you) most of the facts, and all of the conclusions, in your posts, were shown to be weak at best, and totally false at worst. In short, your thesis was slaughtered, sliced, diced, and served up on your own petard.
  
  Your response: either ignore the thread completely and start a new thread with the same worn out argument, or (as in this thread) follow up with childish name-calling. Either way, you have failed to actually discuss the discussion thread which *YOU* started.
  
  As a courtesy, and assuming that perhaps you were not aware of your faux pas I sent you a personnal message explaining that there were questions awaiting your response in your threads. Apparently, you still are unable to have intelligent discussion. Your posting style is "hit and run". It would seem you are either unwilling or unable to stick around and have intelligent discussion.
  
  Therefore, IMO, you are a troll. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll for explanation.
  
  Personally, from this point forward, I will not feed you, troll. But I hope that others here have more patience than I do; destroying theories from trolls like you only tears another brick from the wall of the Watchtower.
  
  ~Quotes, of the "feeds ducks and geese, not trolls" class