most persons who die through lack of blood have made that choice for themselves.
the consequences of such a course of action (often death) generally have an effect which is limited primarily to the individual who is refusing treatment.. however, the victim of a decision to shun has no input into that decision.
therefore the 'victim' of shunning is a helpless recipient of that policy.
Englishman
A person is shunned because of rejection of Watchtower policies, in one form or other.
In this respect the person had a choice. The Watchtower way or their way. Every Witness knows the result of rejecting the Watchtower's rules......Shunning.
The choices are the same.
Radar
All that we see or seem/ Is but a dream within a dream.
-Edgar Allen Poe
most persons who die through lack of blood have made that choice for themselves.
the consequences of such a course of action (often death) generally have an effect which is limited primarily to the individual who is refusing treatment.. however, the victim of a decision to shun has no input into that decision.
therefore the 'victim' of shunning is a helpless recipient of that policy.
Englishman
Just a thought.
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persons who die through lack of blood have made that choice for themselves.
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Correction! they think they have made their own choice.
In reality, their choice is manipulated and not really their own. Informed of "new Light" on the subject, many will accept the new permited "componants".
I ask you then: who's choice really is it? who's conscience is at work here...the individuals or the Watchtower's?
example:
How many JWs do you know, that still reject vaccines.
On Vaccinations
Golden Age, Jan. 5 1929, Page 502
"Thinking people would rather have smallpox than vaccination, because the latter sows seeds of syphilis, cancers, eczema, erysipelas, scrofula, consumption, even leprosy and many other loathsome affections. Hence the practice of vaccinations is a crime, an outrage, and a delusion".
If JWs were using their own choice or conscience, why are not the majority os JWs still applying this direction?
This is mostly true now with permited blood fractions also.
Injury or loss of life from these "Theocratic" rules is widespread and devastating.The knock on effect on familly and friends is likewise traumatic.
Is one a lesser evil than the other? ask those who have been affected.
Radar
All that we see or seem/ Is but a dream within a dream.
-Edgar Allen Poe
why won't you let me help you?
you have been deceived!!!
it's not too late.
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That entire UN thing was an apostate lie.
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It's gotta be Fred.
Only fred hall would come out with simplistic explanations like that.
Radar
All that we see or seem/ Is but a dream within a dream.
-Edgar Allen Poe
we've all seen the smileys, some of which quite useful for expressing emotions and getting across what would need lots of words.. however, we lack emoticons for what is discussed in -chat most of the time (and quite often on this board as well).
here's a few suggestions:.
a flat ass .
Jan H
Looks like you have been taking Viagra again!
Radar
All that we see or seem/ Is but a dream within a dream.
-Edgar Allen Poe
why won't you let me help you?
you have been deceived!!!
it's not too late.
Apostate buster
To know know know you is to love love love you.
So who are ya?
Radar
All that we see or seem/ Is but a dream within a dream.
-Edgar Allen Poe
this is a short article from breakpoint and i think that the writer explains the christian view on recent events.
i hope it reaches those who need it.. this shows why christians are different though being capable of some rather nasty acts.
to my usual detractors, save your bluster as i will not respond to anyone who hijacks this thread with personal attacks.
Alf
What you have to realise is: That Christians have to forgive only while on Earth!
You see when Jesus got to heaven, he took up the sword and rides a white horse.
"Vengence is mine, so saith the Lord" So you see, in reality, He wants to do all this killing all by himself, plus a few other angelic Christlike ones at his side.
So we are to love our enemies, and let God do all the Hateing and revenge.
Now I know this sounds a little like "Do as I say but not as I do" but as Rex will tell you, this is one of the mysteries of God.
I wonder why Sapphira and Annanias were not forgiven though?
another mystery.
Radar
All that we see or seem/ Is but a dream within a dream.
-Edgar Allen Poe
unfortunately my 3 nieces are getting baptized tomorrow.
my dad called me to tell me how proud he was of his grandchildren.
i felt a sick feeling come over me, followed by rising anger.
Dan B, Nathan Natas is correct!
Many people who get baptised begin to drift away soon afterwards, according to the watchtower. So lets hope they are right on this occasion.
Radar
All that we see or seem/ Is but a dream within a dream.
-Edgar Allen Poe
bboyneko
That is Satan!! He is using the cross upside down.
Radar
All that we see or seem/ Is but a dream within a dream.
-Edgar Allen Poe
just looking briefly on this board, i can see all the warnings given in the watchtower about those leaving the organisation and sinking into the mire of the world are true.. you are all sad losers.
billywhiz?
pleasant dreams
Radar
All that we see or seem/ Is but a dream within a dream.
-Edgar Allen Poe
just looking briefly on this board, i can see all the warnings given in the watchtower about those leaving the organisation and sinking into the mire of the world are true.. you are all sad losers.
Thewiz
Your comments are spot on.
Radar
All that we see or seem/ Is but a dream within a dream.
-Edgar Allen Poe
