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Bible Error: Peter Denies Knowing Jesus

by JosephAlward in

in the dialogue below, jesus scoffs at peters claim that he will give his life for jesus.

he tells peter that before the sun comes up in the morning--before the rooster crows--peter would that very night pretend he did not even know jesus.. .

readers should note especially that in the john passage below, jesus is predicting that the rooster would not crow until after peter has denied knowing jesus three times.. .

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revdrjohnson

Regarding Autographs and things like that.
At the end of the day, it is whether you believe what MAN has penned. The Bible is written only by men.
Yet the Bible is diffrent from other historical texts that you mention, because it makes the claim of itself, that it's a revelation from God and demands of its reader to adhere to its belief system, condeming those that do not to everlasting punishment.

As Thomas Paine says in his essay "Age of Reason"

"It is a contradiction in terms and ideas to call anything a revelation that comes to us at second hand, either verbally or in writing. Revelation is necessarily limited to the first communication. After this, it is only an account of something which that person says was a revelation made to him; and though he may find himself obliged to believe it, it cannot be incumbent on me to believe it in the same manner, for it was not a revelation made to me, and I have only his word for it that it was made to him."

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Bible Error: Peter Denies Knowing Jesus

by JosephAlward in

in the dialogue below, jesus scoffs at peters claim that he will give his life for jesus.

he tells peter that before the sun comes up in the morning--before the rooster crows--peter would that very night pretend he did not even know jesus.. .

readers should note especially that in the john passage below, jesus is predicting that the rooster would not crow until after peter has denied knowing jesus three times.. .

radar

Hi Joseph

What you are saying is that the gospel writers cocked up.

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A Picture of the creator

by radar in

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Fred

Obey or be "EXTERMINATED"

Does that sound familiar?

Which God did you think you serve then?

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A Picture of the creator

by radar in

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awake 4-22-02 "spider masquerades as ant&q...

by Moxy in

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there is a rather fascinating article at the end of the april 22nd awake concerning a certain spider that is able to imitate an ant so convincingly that it can live among ants and escape detection.

(puzzlingly the article fails to either name the spider or indicate its native habitat.

looking up some info myself, i see that there a several species of ant-mimicing spider, especially of the genus myrmarachne.

radar

Good points Moxy

There are so many ingenious methods that the "creator" has made in his creation, for them to capture and kill each other with.

This creator must be a bit of a sadist eh!

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Jesus was a False Prophet

by JosephAlward in

as he sat upon mount of olives, jesus was telling his disciples about the end of the world and what they could expect just before that apocalyptic event.

they asked him, .

"when shall these things be?

radar

RWC.... "You are mixing two seperate events. The prophecy in Matt. 16 was fulfilled when the disciples witnessed the transfiguration"

Spoken like a JW apologist.

Incedently how did Peter James and John recognise Moses and Elijah next to Jesus?
Perhaps they had a painting of them somewhere hidden in their robes eh.

hooberus... "Didn't Stephen see the son of man (Acts 7) before he tasted death?"
Now are you speaking alegorically here? How do you read Carmel?

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Jesus was a False Prophet

by JosephAlward in

as he sat upon mount of olives, jesus was telling his disciples about the end of the world and what they could expect just before that apocalyptic event.

they asked him, .

"when shall these things be?

radar

Hi Joseph

It is interesting that if you read the letters of the early Christian writers, it becomes obvious that they all felt that they were living in the time that Jesus spoke about.
James 5:8 The Presence of the Lord as drawn near

This "Presence" had not happened by the time the writer of Revelation, wrote : Revelaytion 22: 20 Come Lord Jesus come

You can almost sense the desperation in that plea.

Christian Apologists will point to the events that befall Jerusalem under General Titus and say that this was an "END" of the Jewish system of things that Jesus spoke about.

Yet it is clear that this was not the expectation or the teaching of the early Church. This can be seen from such words as penned by James in the quote above, infact if one reads the surrounding verses of that Bible verse it is clear.

Christian apologists will go to any lenghts to explain the failure of Jesus's prophecy. Take "Larsguy" for example, he believes that there are in reality people still alivefrom the days of Jesus when he was said to utter those words.

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William Miller & the long road to Apocalyps...

by expatbrit in

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i thought i would post this excellent essay on william miller and the apocalyptic sects he spawned, including the watchtower society & the branch davidians.. expatbrit.

prophecy failed.

from the great disappointment.

radar

Guess What?

William Miller's great grandson Mark Miller, is alive and kicking and he was once a prominant Jehovah's Witness.

His story is written here : http://www.nazarene-friends.org/pubs/mc/mc-chap2.htm

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Hypnotism

by sleepy in

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has any one here ever been hypnotised?.

i'm intrested in whether there is a link to repetative meetings and book studies and hypnotism.. hypnosis is defined as a "sleep like state in which people are open suggestion and will act how they are told to.".

can this wok over a long term period , such as the years in the "truth' or only on a short term basis like in a hypnotists show?.

radar

Feeling Sleepy ?, then we will begin.

This is the mechanics of hypnotism: Firstly the hypnotist has to overcome a person’s “critical censor”, this is the bit in your brain which says “hey hold on a minute I don’t want to do that”. It is what stops you putting your head in the fire just because Fred Bloggs just did it.
The censor sifts information coming into the brain and allows us to make choices rather than us being just a puppet to every command or idea that comes to us.

How the hypnotist overcomes this, is to get in through the back door so to speak.
He gets an individual to consciously focus on something and while the person is doing this, he then feeds suggestions to the person’s unconscious mind, (you are feeling sleepy) by allowing the hypnotist to do this, the hypnotist voice is slipping through the back door and his suggesting go to the persons brain uncensored, it become like an inner voice speaking to that person.
When the person actually becomes sleepy, then the hypnotist knows his suggestions are getting through, and then can take control of that person’s consciousness.

It is interesting that once JWs accept that the “Governing Body” are the voice of God on Earth today. Then anything that is spoken by “the body”, gets to their brain uncensored so to speak. Automatic obedience follows without question.
So once a person accepts “the truth” he actually is giving his will over to the hypnotists of the “governing body”.

It can be said that all fundamentalists are guilty of this type of control.

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The Watchtower April Fool

by radar in

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the watchtower april fool.

i have just received a copy of the watchtower april 15th, which a friend posted to me.

he highlighted an article to me, entitled two pastors who appreciated russells writings.

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Fred

Just in case you missed the obvious, the April fool is the author of that article in the Watchtower.