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  where is that quote in the WT on even thinking against the WT constitutes apostasy?

  by WildeLover in

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  can someone direct me to that quote ?

  i think it was back in the 80s?

  i have looked and can't find it anywhere?.

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  apostatethunder

  KS doesn’t miss a chance to compare the WT with Christianity or even with Jesus himself.
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 09-02-2012 WT Study (TRUE FREEDOM)

  by blondie in

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  true freedom.

  law that belongs to.

  what is true freedom?

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  apostatethunder

  Obviously freedom means different things for different people, the WT sells “true“ freedom.

  It’s difficult to be free when you are surrounded by people that want to impose you THEIR own view of what freedom is.
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  Not Religon...not Belief....Not Inerrancy: INTERPRETATION is christianity

  by Terry in

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  what the bible "says" isn't religion or doctrine or belief.. interpretation is.. proved how?.

  there is not just one christian church.. ask yourself "why?".

  here is a logic puzzle easily solved!.

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  apostatethunder

  Jesus said “he that is not with me is against me“, people that were with him even though did not belong to his group of apostles had his approval. Mar 9:38-40

  He also said he who saw him saw the Father.

  The bottom line of the message of the Bible is quite simple. Ec 12:13, Mic 6:8
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  Not Religon...not Belief....Not Inerrancy: INTERPRETATION is christianity

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what the bible "says" isn't religion or doctrine or belief.. interpretation is.. proved how?.

  there is not just one christian church.. ask yourself "why?".

  here is a logic puzzle easily solved!.

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  apostatethunder

  Terry, I remember a very good post you had a few months ago, about how the Bible is like a mirror and everyone gets out of it whatever he himself is.

  To a certain extent it is so, but other things in the Bible are not open to interpretation, such as love God with your whole heart, soul, mind and heart and your neighbour as yourself.

  What is open for interpretation is for example the meaning of Babylon the Great, and our conclusion will vary depending on our own capacity, and/or personal interests.
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  A year has passed and guess what... I dont give a damn!

  by TimothyT in

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  gosh... i cannot believe i have been disfellowshipped for over a year!

  its so surreal.

  because of my ingrained belief that the jw organisation is the one and only true religion, i often think about everything that has happened quite often.

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  apostatethunder

  Cheers Tim.

  Congratulations on your freedom.
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  ABOUT TERRY

  by Quentin in

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  terry was admitted to the hospital yesterday.

  he has a severe case of cellulites which has affected his neck glands.

  his face and neck are very swollen.

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  apostatethunder

  Welcome back Terry, I am happy to hear you are doing well. Looking forward to read your posts.
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  Message from a JW. Does this sound Christian?

  by TimothyT in

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  sent a message to a very good jw friend who must be about 20 now.

  here is the message:.

  "hiya.

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  apostatethunder

  Timothy, the thing to remember here is that you are not dealing with an individual but with an organization.

  If it was him alone he may have had a different reaction, it’s difficult to know as he is not a free individual.
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  WTS: "Leave churches that change doctrines!"

  by irondork in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower society openly acknowledges that constant doctrinal changes are causing many to abandon their religion.

  oh irony, you're always there for me!.

  [w75 6/1 millions have left the churches - should you?

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  apostatethunder

  Whatever they say, the reasons why some people may choose to leave the Catholic Church are very different from the reasons people leave the WT, and so is the manner.

  Leaving the WT means being exposed to being judged, losing your good name and being excluded by your friends and family. You may also be forced to leave for just being “brazen” and taking your own decisions even in personal matters.

  Leaving the Catholic Church you know the door will always be open for you to come back and that you will be able to be your own person if you decide to do so.
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  What's the point?

  by LKM in

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  hi, i'm not a jw, but am recently married to an disfellowshipped jw who does not believe in jw beliefs.

  my stepson is being raised by his mother to be a jw.

  ack!

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  apostatethunder

  In my opinion, the whole point of this corporation is to discredit Christianity.

  Making money at the same time is a bonus.
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  Relationship Issues: Boundaries, Freedom of Choice and Codependency

  by 00DAD in

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  2. beliefs

  relationship issues: boundaries, freedom of choice and codependency .

  i just read a very interesting thought in the book, "boundaries" by cloud & townsend.

  the basic problem in human relationship is that of freedom.

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  apostatethunder

  I believe true love is unconditional, and it goes both ways.

  I think Jesus words of loving your enemies are referring to people that act in ignorance, as he said about the Romans, “forgive them because they don’t know what they are doing“, but did not said so about the Pharisees.

  Loving those who hate you is the equivalent of hating yourself.