Posts by apostatethunder

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JW Baptism Misrepresentation/Ilegal for under 18's
by Pleasuredome in
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2. scandals
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please read this link if you dont understand why the questions on baptism were changed in 1985...... and why baptism in the jws since 1985 is a legal snare.... .

http://www.geocities.com/osarsif/legal.htm
apostatethunder

As far as I am concerned their baptism is a scam and therefore not valid.
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The Vatican New World Order
by Infowarrior in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
we know that the watchtower claims to be seeking accurate truth regarding biblical propheicies regarding the last days and the willd beast and the "world that is laying in the power of the wicked one".. the watchtower inisists it is the faithful and discreet slave who is providing needed spiritual food at the proper time.

however on close examination, is this really the case ?

or is the watchtower, like all other western corporate organizations in the modern western world, simply distracting, subverting, and hiding the truth from thier christian sheep ?.
apostatethunder

"But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you“. Matthew 12: 28
Judaism has no saying in what Christianity is or is not, they have declared themselves enemies of Christianity from the very beginning and acted as such throughout history. Christians in general are very naïve, something they are not. Very telling how they hide behind freedom of speech to insult, mock and slander other religions but view the slightest critic to their HISTORY as hate speech.
A lie repeated a thousand times is still A LIE.
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Relationship Issues: Boundaries, Freedom of Choice and Codependency
by 00DAD in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
relationship issues: boundaries, freedom of choice and codependency .

i just read a very interesting thought in the book, "boundaries" by cloud & townsend.

the basic problem in human relationship is that of freedom.
apostatethunder

Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.
That makes sense with people that acts out of ignorance, not very fair on you when dealing with an ass****.
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HOW TO IDENTIFY THE TRUE RELIGION
by Fifth Column in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
jesus said that the true religion would be evident in the lives of the people who practice it.

by their fruits you will recognize them, he said.

every good tree produces fine fruit.
apostatethunder

People at different stages may choose one religion over another, for some is a question of tradition, for others is a spiritual need. Religions comfort and help people in different ways.
Religions or ideologies that are damaging for the person’s self-development are not only false, but very dangerous. Same with the ones that see others with hostility or contempt (more or less subtly) for the simple reason that they don’t belong to the group.
Trying to put all religions in the same basket is the sign of a totalitarian ideology.
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jc meeting
by Princess Ashe in
1. jw
2. experiences
this has been years ago but i was remembering one of my jc meetings, they told me to sit at the very front of the hall while they all sat in the room in the back of the hall to discuss.. and i heard 1 elder yelling from all the way accross the hall.

has anyone every had this happen?

its so crazy now looking back at it and how stupid everything was handled..
apostatethunder

True freedom in action, not like the Catholic Church and their unscriptural practice of confession.
I don’t think it is the practice of the Catholic priests to humiliate people that confess to them either, usually they are very compassionate, and don’t keep envelops with people‘s sins.
Also priests don’t chase or force people into the confessionary.
Speaking about being brazen, how about brazenly hypocritical?
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where is that quote in the WT on even thinking against the WT constitutes apostasy?
by WildeLover in
1. watchtower
2. bible
can someone direct me to that quote ?

i think it was back in the 80s?

i have looked and can't find it anywhere?.
apostatethunder

KS, you are comparing the WT with religions that offer help and comfort to their followers without using manipulation and control techniques to recruit and keep people in, and THAT’S problematic.
You also seem to have a bit of a problem understanding the figure of Jesus and what it is he stands for. Some of his contemporaries had the same problem with him.
In any case you certainly display a lot of zeal posting on this site, 1814 posts in two months is quite impressive even for a retired man. It looks more like a full time job.
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Not Religon...not Belief....Not Inerrancy: INTERPRETATION is christianity
by Terry in
1. watchtower
2. bible
what the bible "says" isn't religion or doctrine or belief.. interpretation is.. proved how?.

there is not just one christian church.. ask yourself "why?".

here is a logic puzzle easily solved!.
apostatethunder

Not everybody has the same level of intelligence and moral quality. Claiming everybody is the same doesn’t change the fact that we are not.
The Bible can not be compared with any other book, and its value is not determined by those who don’t get anything out of it.
Loving your neighbour as yourself is one of those things that you don’t need a great deal of intelligence to comprehend, hence the simplicity and superiority of the Christian message.
People that come selling their own flavour of “freedom“, tend to have their own agenda, and are usually just enslaving people in their own way.
This week’s WT study was about “True Freedom”, a lesson in hypocrisy for anyone that cares to take it.
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where is that quote in the WT on even thinking against the WT constitutes apostasy?
by WildeLover in
1. watchtower
2. bible
can someone direct me to that quote ?

i think it was back in the 80s?

i have looked and can't find it anywhere?.
apostatethunder

KS doesn’t miss a chance to compare the WT with Christianity or even with Jesus himself.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 09-02-2012 WT Study (TRUE FREEDOM)
by blondie in
1. jw
2. friends
true freedom.

law that belongs to.

what is true freedom?
apostatethunder

Obviously freedom means different things for different people, the WT sells “true“ freedom.
It’s difficult to be free when you are surrounded by people that want to impose you THEIR own view of what freedom is.
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Not Religon...not Belief....Not Inerrancy: INTERPRETATION is christianity
by Terry in
1. watchtower
2. bible
what the bible "says" isn't religion or doctrine or belief.. interpretation is.. proved how?.

there is not just one christian church.. ask yourself "why?".

here is a logic puzzle easily solved!.
apostatethunder

Jesus said “he that is not with me is against me“, people that were with him even though did not belong to his group of apostles had his approval. Mar 9:38-40
He also said he who saw him saw the Father.
The bottom line of the message of the Bible is quite simple. Ec 12:13, Mic 6:8