in the past i've compared the wts to slavery, but this book validates what i've come to know about this organization.. .
'cuz slavery ain't sweet, no matter how faithful and discreet.
jesus states: "....the truth will set you free.
There are different forms of slavery. Enslaving somebody’s mind is definitely slavery. It doesn’t need to be religion, it can be politically or ideologically, as in 1984, or in any totalitarian regime, through stern social and media control.
The WT does enslave people mentally, otherwise they would have no followers.
i was shocked ( though i probably shouldn't have been ) when reading the new elders manual concerning whether elders have to confess up about former sins from a few years earlier.
notice this on pg.
38 , paragraph 19 : it states, " if it comes to light or an appointed brother confesses that he has committed a disfellowshipping offense years in the past : the body of elders may determine he can continue to serve if the following is true : the immorality or other serious wrongdoing occured more than a few years ago, and he is genuinely repentant, recognizing that he should have come forward immediately when he sinned.
They behave like a bunch of pimps. If anything the elders should have a higher standard than the rest of the sheep. This elder’s book is an ass****’s manual.
I know people that have been reproved for things that happened many years earlier, and also lost their privileges for something the elders had no business in.
This is just one example of how they abuse the people from the r&f. They are desperate for brothers to take the lead in the congregations, so they are far more valuable than a simple sheep. An unmistakable mark of the holy spirit.
The whole point of the disciplinary process is to ashame the person and make sure they will think twice before “sinning” ever again. Of course elders go by different rules, we can only imagine what the people really high up in the organization go by.
I agree with you longhair gal, they tend to be more strict with women that step out of line, it’s like a form of sadism I guess, a power trip. Exactly what Jesus would have done. And this elders are the ones meddling in the private lives of others in the congregation while nobody knows what they are hiding themselves. It is repugnant. They are revolting and deserve to be behind bars.
in the past i've compared the wts to slavery, but this book validates what i've come to know about this organization.. .
'cuz slavery ain't sweet, no matter how faithful and discreet.
jesus states: "....the truth will set you free.
Slavery still exist today, and those who approve of it should try their own medicine.
Jesus did condemned slavery, he said love your neighbour as yourself. Unless you would like to be a slave yourself, you shouldn’t own any.
i have started to read crisis of consicence.
it is mindblowing and upsetting because of the lies i believed..
I felt very sorry for Ray Franz when I read it. I was already out, but I will always be grateful to him for writing this book.
how a spouse could get an obstinate unbeliever to leave the marriage?
i read someone talking about it on another board and i dont have a cd-rom to look it up.
it was supposed to have come been in an older publication and listed many tactics for how to get them to leave the marriage.
I doubt they would write it down, but they seem to be specialist on ending a marriage and blaming the other part. I know of too many cases, specially of elders and men with responsibilities that were not treating their wives very well and then, when the wives leave them or the organization, they appear to be the innocent ones and marry another sister. Clever.
while growing up as a jw this was a question i often wondered about: did jesus ever call his heavenly father by the name jehovah?
and if he did, why wasn't it recorded.. i know there's plenty of references such as john 17:6, 26 where it says "i have made your name manifest to the men ...".
however is there anywhere in the bible where jesus used the actual word jehovah?.
He usually called Him Father.
to donate all her hair to cancer?
discuss..
It would just show that her “head” was ashamed of her speaking. Interestingly Paul mentions also that Jesus is the head of the head, and God is the head of Jesus, and they both didn’t seem to have any problems in hearing women speaking. In ancient Israel God used women as prophetises and judges and Jesus always treated women as equals, even non-Israelite ones. If a husband feels threatened by his wife speaking, it may be a sign that they are not a good match for each other.
i am liking don's term "captive to a concept" more and more, it explains so much about the mindset of average dubs.. to those who are being activily shunned, how does it affect you when you see former friends and family, do the sideway's crab-walk to get away?
you are not alone, shunning is happening to weaker witnesses in the congregations, this practice is not sanctioned by the watchtower society, this trait is straight from satan the devil, it pure evil and cruel!
as i post, this new trait is being taught to the power player's apprentices, teaching them how to do the "weak witnesses exit stage left!
Every time I come across this type of behaviour, I feel even more grateful for not having absolutely anything to do with them anymore. It’s great to be free and they are not.
I’ve come across many elderettes during my time, so much for the fruitages of submissiveness.
As happy as one can be when the decisions in your life and in the lives of those around you are being taken by some self appointed annointed.
i'm sort of following a stream of consciousness so bear with me.
i was flipping around on tv and ran across an old movie.
a couple had a one night stand and when she realized he had just used her she was shocked and told him he had said he loved her.
Big Tex, as in the movie, they were real at the time. Saying that, a relationship is between two individuals, if one of the individuals has lost his/her personal identity in deference to a group, you are not dealing with an individual anymore, so it’s the equivalent of you having a personal relationship with an entity through its representatives. It’s real in a sense, but it’s not what human relationships are about. Personally I think that the relationships in the organization are very superficial in general, as there is never the level of trust and openness that is required to have meaningful relationships. They are isolated from each other as their main loyalty will always be to the organization.
