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  JW's Never Closed the Door On A Russian King of the North

  by scotoma in

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  king of the north.

  union, the "king of the south" can be none other than the rival non-communist bloc, under the .

  so who is the king of the north now?

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  apostatethunder

  If we go by the WT interpretation of Daniel, the logical king of the north would now be al quaeda.

  But it is quite strange to identify the king of the south as anglo-america when historically and politically, England and America acted as foes of the real king of the south: Rome, which is still standing as the roots of our western Christian civilization.

  The so called anglo-american power is more fit as the king of the north, trying to pass as the king of the south since the famous french revolution that debilitated the whole continent costing over 6 million lives and that ironically catapulted Britain as the new world power.

  So at this point, we can safely conclude that the king of the south is the natural heir of R-O-M-E, and that the king of the north is Wall Street or the usur-per.

  It is clear is that the king of the south is the one linked with God's people and that means that the king of the north are their enemies, whoever they might be.
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  Research on legal implications of group shunning

  by BreathoftheIndianNose in

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  hey everyone!

  i haven't posted here in a while, over a year i think.

  just goes to show where i'm at in the recovery stage.

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  Why should the WT have the power to bully people into having or not having association with anybody?

  The WT acts as if they owned its members and that is a Human Rights violation.

  They wouldn't be where they are today without the help of America's government. In America the rights of Corporations are above the rights of citizens. That leaves the individual at the mercy of these organizations pretty much in the same way that people was at the mercy of the government in communist countries.

  The WT has 7 million drones in every country of the world for whatever purpose they want to use them.

  It is not a coincidence that America is the first exporter of sects to the world.

  The announcement so and so is no longer one of JW is figuratively a public execution and achieves the same thing: social control.
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  Has anyone found comfort/encouragement from "worldly songs"?

  by awakening in

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  i remember reading a thread when my exit was starting, about inspirational songs.

  someone posted a link to the "shins" for a fool.

  this was a surprising help to me.

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  Jesus he knows me from Genesis.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EprQGmZ3Imw
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  Virtue makes you beautiful: Mormon 1D parody

  by stuckinlimbo in

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  http://youtu.be/oartie7rkum.

  apart from being generally sad i can't understand why they chose a song that was already quite pure!.

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  Apart from being very good-looking, these guys have very beautiful voices.

  Definetely I joined the wrong cult.
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  Has a critical mass of exJWs been reached?

  by truthseeker in

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  it took the better part of 15 years but i believe we have finally arrived at that point where there is now a critical mass of former witnesses.. thousands of exjws come together on forums like this one and discuss findings, ideas and research.

  there have been documentaries and even a movie made about life in the jehovah's witnesses.. ex jw websites, online forums, and discussion boards that set the wheels in motion in the early to late 90s have matured into powerful tools of social change within the organization.. the lies and false doctines taught by the watchtower bible & tract society are plainly accessible with just a cursory google search.. active elders leak boe letters, often weeks before they hit the notice board in a kingdom hall.. social media has allowed exjws to connect with those still in as well as those who have left.. the society have no game plan because information is power and they have lost the information war.

  all they can do is cry wolf and warn the rank and file not to listen to apostates.. i don't know what future the society will face in the next ten years, but changing world events, social trends, and reactionary change from headquarters based on their own faulty biblical chronology has got them cornered like a raging animal.. it doesn't look good..

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  apostatethunder

  People that has been affected by this corporation, when freed tend to react very strongly against religion, puting them all in the same basket. In Catholic countries for example, many people don't practice their religion much or at all for whatever reason, but most would still defend the Church and respect believers despite all the propaganda against it. This is not the case with people that leaves cults, despite not being so much information in the media about them.

  This is something they probably count on, and they seem to encourage it. So, one can only wonder at the effect all the millions that have been negatively affected by the WT will end up having in our ever more secular society.

  Unfortunately this type of manipulation is not something exclusive of religious groups.
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  Were you a minor when you were baptized

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  https://www.facebook.com/groups/xjwrg3/permalink/10152034643265835/?qa_ref=qd.

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  Were you a minor when you were baptized

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  https://www.facebook.com/groups/xjwrg3/permalink/10152034643265835/?qa_ref=qd.

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  apostatethunder

  Not only was I a minor, but I was totally missinformed about the nature of this particular organization.

  Also they seem to view the baptism as a contract by virtue of which the corporation invites itself to enter your life and start interfering with it in order to continue manipulating you, while they emphasize to the candidates that it is just the public demonstation of their private dedication to God.

  So, it is kind of getting married while you are being told that you are just celebrating a birthday.
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  Problems of Dating the Watchtower Way

  by enigma1863 in

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  i wanted to know what problems you have learned about dating in the "truth" acording to there policy.

  i feel like you dont really know someone until you live with them.

  also some put on a false personality until they get what they want i.e.

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  One of the things that becomes crystal clear with time is how the talks and articles are synchronized with whatever is happening in the congregation, even if it is a private thing between a couple. This not only relates to dating though.

  It is a shame all the effort they put in finding out about people's private business is not put in creating healthy relationships with them instead, and all their emphasis in providing food at the proper time is rather not put on doing good deeds at the proper time.

  Once you leave you realize that you were in an abusive, controlling relationship with THEM with everything that this entails.
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  Disassociation

  by evilone in

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  hi all, i haven't posted here in quite some time.. just as an update, about two years ago, my wife and i moved to a big city about 500 miles away from the town in which we grew up.

  we made this move in part to expedite the fading process, which was successful.

  when we moved, as i described in an earlier post, we formally transferred from our home cong (where our families are) to a local cong in our new city, and then transferred twice more so as to get lost in the shuffle.

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  They are known to visit inactive ones even years after they leave.

  You can think of good answers to give them when they come by (lies) or you can write the letter and move on with your life.
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  After years of Watchtower fighting the BAN in Russia.....

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  i apologize if this topic was already covered, i didn't have time to look thru several pages of posts.... after several years of fighting their ban in russia.

  russian court declares jw's literature extremist:.

  http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140113/186483571/russian-court-declares-jehovahs-witness-brochures-extremist.html?fb_action_ids=530487500391762&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%5b1377130229215916%5d&action_type_map=%5b%22og.recommends%22%5d&action_ref_map=%5b%5d.

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  apostatethunder

  The WT does not say things, it does them.