Posts by lost1

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How many JWs will leave the organization after viewing the Sparlock video? Estimate

by Iamallcool in

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lost1

Think may make the odd one think for a minute or two. But even if gets one out its worth it.

L1

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Are you up and down all night?

by compound complex in

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i am - every hour or so - but last night i slept for 5 hours uninterrupted, and this despite 4 cups of coffee late afternoon.

still can't account for what was for me tantamount to a full-night's sleep .... .

do you sleep well most nights?.

lost1

Shirley - I am totally on your page! If get 3 hours I feel lucky. Tired now.... zzzz

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Elders Can Hide their Own Sins from the Past-Yet Continue as Elders? Read

by flipper in

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i was shocked ( though i probably shouldn't have been ) when reading the new elders manual concerning whether elders have to confess up about former sins from a few years earlier.

notice this on pg.

38 , paragraph 19 : it states, " if it comes to light or an appointed brother confesses that he has committed a disfellowshipping offense years in the past : the body of elders may determine he can continue to serve if the following is true : the immorality or other serious wrongdoing occured more than a few years ago, and he is genuinely repentant, recognizing that he should have come forward immediately when he sinned.

lost1

Makes me sooo angry! But for me its a learning curve!

End of the day he has actually done nothing wrong in the real world but in his world he has broken nearly every rule under the sun.

I feel like just grassing him up but what would that achieve!!??!! Except for making me feel better for about 10 seconds!!

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Elders Can Hide their Own Sins from the Past-Yet Continue as Elders? Read

by flipper in

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friends

i was shocked ( though i probably shouldn't have been ) when reading the new elders manual concerning whether elders have to confess up about former sins from a few years earlier.

notice this on pg.

38 , paragraph 19 : it states, " if it comes to light or an appointed brother confesses that he has committed a disfellowshipping offense years in the past : the body of elders may determine he can continue to serve if the following is true : the immorality or other serious wrongdoing occured more than a few years ago, and he is genuinely repentant, recognizing that he should have come forward immediately when he sinned.

lost1

So he can keep quiet for another 2 years and then all will be forgiven..

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Elders Can Hide their Own Sins from the Past-Yet Continue as Elders? Read

by flipper in

jw
friends

i was shocked ( though i probably shouldn't have been ) when reading the new elders manual concerning whether elders have to confess up about former sins from a few years earlier.

notice this on pg.

38 , paragraph 19 : it states, " if it comes to light or an appointed brother confesses that he has committed a disfellowshipping offense years in the past : the body of elders may determine he can continue to serve if the following is true : the immorality or other serious wrongdoing occured more than a few years ago, and he is genuinely repentant, recognizing that he should have come forward immediately when he sinned.

lost1

So in the last few months if an elder had gambled, fornicated, smoked, been drunk, associated with "worldly people" and then pleaded his case he would be let off and I would be the one who had led him astray?? Taken the poor lamb down a path of wrong doing and even "made" him go into another church??

just letting off steam.....

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How many here smoke?

by cantleave in

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i don't and am very unlikely to after seeing my father dying of a smoking related lung disease (even though i would like to try a high quality cigar).. but i am curious to see how many people take up smoking after leaving the org.. .

lost1

Sorry to say I do and when I met the "bf" he said he had never smoked in his life but wanted to try one! Told him he was stupid if he did but he still went ahead and had one. Another sign of rebellion in hindsight! and then he wanted to get his first lottery ticket and then put his first bet on! All the signs were there.....

L1

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How Do You Deal With The Shunning You Receive From "Captive" Witnesses?

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

i am liking don's term "captive to a concept" more and more, it explains so much about the mindset of average dubs.. to those who are being activily shunned, how does it affect you when you see former friends and family, do the sideway's crab-walk to get away?

you are not alone, shunning is happening to weaker witnesses in the congregations, this practice is not sanctioned by the watchtower society, this trait is straight from satan the devil, it pure evil and cruel!

as i post, this new trait is being taught to the power player's apprentices, teaching them how to do the "weak witnesses exit stage left!

lost1

Still pretty new on here but from a non jw perspective and from "dating" a jw for the last year I suddenly find myself being totally ignored while I know he is going on his jw work as normal. As I said in my first post I had no idea he was a jw until only couple of months ago and he was very reluctant to talk about it so I respected his decision and never pressed him although he did no my views having had friends/family in the borg and heard all the horror stories. From a relationship that was brilliant overnight it went from talking every day and arranging things to nothing which I find very hard. Only contact is that he has had a "breakdown" and cant talk to anyone. The only time he spoke about this life was one day just after I found out and he said he desperately wanted out, a normal life and freedom. I said I would help anyway I could and he said he was going to see a solicitor to sort out certain issues (or so he said). I knew he was a elder and very high up in the hiariachy. Maybe he has been "got at" as I know guilt/depression is rife. I doubt I will ever know the real reason and I have to try and get on with my life. Very hard as tried so hard to be understanding and give him all the space etc he wanted but to out of the blue being treated as if you were the devil incarnate is very hard. Different viewpoint but feels good putting it in words which not been able to do until now.

L1

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