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  Letter from elders to WT about Jonathan Kendrick and the WT response

  by wolfman85 in

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  i don't know if these letters were posted here before , so i'm sorry if is something that all of you have seen already..

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  Cacky, there is a scroller on the bottom that moves left to right, so that you can read it fully.
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  What Some Loyal JW's Are Saying About The Oakland Case.

  by Bangalore in

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  form the pro-jw site jwtalk.

  this is such a ronald mcdonald court case.

  i can't believe what i am reading.. lie: "the lawsuit alleged that watchtower had a policy that instructed elders in its jehovah's witnesses congregations to keep reports of child sex abusers within the religious group secret to avoid lawsuits.".

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  I just found what this person said to be entirely funny as hell: " I still don't understand how the JW's could be sued. That is a lot of donations that could be used to print magazines or build the new headquarters." What about actually helping people?
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  The Flying Spaghetti Monster's The Eight "I'd Really Rather You Didn'ts"

  by schnare in

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  i just found this kind of funny and wanted to share them.

  apparently there is even a flying spaghetti monster bible.. .

  1. i'd really rather you didn't act like a sanctimonious holier-than-thou *** when describing my noodly goodness.

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  I just found this kind of funny and wanted to share them. Apparently there is even a flying spaghetti monster bible.

  The Eight "I'd Really Rather You Didn'ts"
  
  1. I'd really rather you didn't act like a sanctimonious holier-than-thou *** when describing my noodly goodness. If some people don't believe in me, that's okay. Really, I'm not that vain. Besides, this isn't about them so don't change the subject.
  
  2. I'd really rather you didn't use my existence as a means to oppress, subjugate, punish, eviscerate, and/or, you know, be mean to others. I don't require sacrifices, and purity is for drinking water, not people.
  
  3. I'd really rather you didn't judge people for the way they look, or how they dress, or the way they talk, or, well, just play nice, okay? Oh, and get this into your thick heads: woman = person. man = person. Samey = Samey. One is not better than the other, unless we're talking about fashion and I'm sorry, but I gave that to women and some guys who know the difference between teal and fuchsia.
  
  4. I'd really rather you didn't indulge in conduct that offends yourself, or your willing, consenting partner of legal age AND mental maturity. As for anyone who might object, I think the expression is "go f*** yourself," unless they find that offensive in which case they can turn off the TV for once and go for a walk for a change.
  
  5. I'd really rather you didn't challenge the bigoted, misogynistic, hateful ideas of others on an empty stomach. Eat, then go after the b******.
  
  6. I'd really rather you didn't build multi million-dollar synagogues / churches / temples / mosques / shrines to my noodly goodness when the money could be better spent (take your pick):
  Ending poverty
  Curing diseases
  Living in peace, loving with passion, and lowering the cost of cable
  I might be a complex-carbohydrate omniscient being, but I enjoy the simple things in life. I ought to know. I AM the creator.
  
  7. I'd really rather you didn't go around telling people I talk to you. You're not that interesting. Get over yourself. And I told you to love your fellow man, can't you take a hint?
  
  8. I'd really rather you didn't do unto others as you would have them do unto you if you are into, um, stuff that uses a lot of leather/lubricant/vaseline. If the other person is into it, however (pursuant to #4), then have at it, take pictures, and for the love of Mike, wear a CONDOM! Honestly, it's a piece of rubber. If I didn't want it to feel good when you did it I would have added spikes, or something
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  Feeling Emotional But In A Good Way. Another Sparlock thread :D

  by Amelia Ashton in

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  2. friends

  just fired up my comp and went to youtube and entered "sparlock".

  wow!

  people have re-uploaded the originals, they have parodied it, got kids to comment on it and woody from toy story has given his opinion on it too.. you guys are awesome!

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  What I don't understand is how they can ban something that isn't real. Magic does not exist at all. How can you hate something that isn't even something real?
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  Satan sounds an awful like the WTS

  by schnare in

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  i was just browsing through the april 15th, 2012 watch tower to see what bs they are spouting now.

  i was reading an article called "beware of the devil's snares!".

  the three traps sound an awful lot like what they do to people.. .

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  I was just browsing through the April 15th, 2012 watch tower to see what BS they are spouting now. I was reading an article called "Beware of the Devil's Snares!". The three traps sound an awful lot like what they do to people.

  To catch prey alive, a trapper may use a snare of

  some sort. He may try to get the animal to come

  out into the open where he can capture it with a

  noose. Or he may use a hidden trap that has a trigger

  and takes the animal by surprise. The Devil uses

  similar snares to catch God’s servants alive. If we

  want to avoid being caught, we must be alert and

  heed warning signs indicating that one of Satan’s

  snares, or traps, is nearby. This article will consider

  how we can guard against three of the traps that the

  Devil has used with a measure of success. These are

  (1) uncontrolled speech, (2) fear and pressure, and

  (3) excessive guilt. The next article will consider two

  additional traps, or snares, of Satan.
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  Does the GB actually believe it all?

  by schnare in

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  do you guys think that the gb actually believes the garbage that they print?

  how could they actually believe their new "overlapping generation" doctrine?

  wouldn't they have access to anything ever printed and have knowledge of all the false prophecy?

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  Do you guys think that the GB actually believes the garbage that they print? How could they actually believe their new "overlapping generation" doctrine? Wouldn't they have access to anything ever printed and have knowledge of all the false prophecy? Maybe they are all just deluded.
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  How can I convince my mother the JW's are wrong?

  by schnare in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is probably going to be a long post, since i am going to be added some parts of our conversations on facebook.

  my mother has been involved sort of with the jw's, since she was younger.

  so she's always kind of believed in their stuff.

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  I think, that she meant Herod . I totally agree with you oompa. I used an illustration to my mother about the light getting brighter. I said that if the light is getting brighter it should build on previous knowledge not be something completely different. I said it's like being in a room which is dimly lit. You can see it looks like a bedroom and then it gets brighter and brighter, but it some how became a bathroom. I know, how much the JW's love their illustrations.
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  How can I convince my mother the JW's are wrong?

  by schnare in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is probably going to be a long post, since i am going to be added some parts of our conversations on facebook.

  my mother has been involved sort of with the jw's, since she was younger.

  so she's always kind of believed in their stuff.

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  Here is some more conversation from today.

  My Mother: Y our grasping at straws.1935 is when they found out there was an earthly crowd. Truths were getting out. The bible does not have a date, but it does not mean the light isn't getting brighter.

  Me: How am I grasping at straws? They get their knowledge from the bible apparently,so where does it state the date? "Is it not hypocritical when you chide the "poor deluded Catholic" that his faith cannot find a Bible passage to support it, when the same goes for you and 1935?" Also why do they misquote scientists and historians in their publications?

  My Mother: Things are getting clearer all the time, but the bible does not have to have the exact date for everything coming out. People have to know the truth to do God's will ,but if they dont know, how will they do that? Some people will read the truth and not see it. Do what you want. I feel sad, but I will hope until the day. (she's refering to the Big A, obviously)

  Me: Life -- How Did It Get Here? By Evolution or by Creation? (1985), p. 18:

  12 Darwin acknowledged this as a problem. For example, he wrote: "To suppose that the eye ... could have been formed by [evolution], seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree."
  
  The whole quote, which they took out of context to make look like he said something it was not and that's not the only time. Why be so dishonest?
  
  Real Quote:
  
  Charles Darwin, The Origin of Species, 1859, p. 133:

  "To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree. When it was first said that the sun stood still and the world turned round, the common sense of mankind declared the doctrine false; but the old saying of Vox populi, vox Dei, as every philosopher knows, cannot be trusted in science. Reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a simple and imperfect eye to one complex and perfect can be shown to exist, each grade being useful to its possessor, as is certainly the case; if further, the eye ever varies and the variations be inherited, as is likewise certainly the case; and if such variations should be useful to any animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, should not be considered as subversive of the theory."

  My Mother: There are many reasons about chrismas then the date. Paganism, astrologers following the star. God disapproves of astrologers. Why would he use them? Harold ask the astrologers to follow that star, when they found Jesus, THE astrologers were warned to return to Harold. The true religion would be prosecuted and hated. Satan wants to blind people. I know JW is the truth. I want you to believe, but I can't force you, but I hope.

  Me: Life -- How Did It Get Here? By Evolution or by Creation? (1985), p. 39:

  5 At this point a reader may begin to understand Dawkins' comment in the preface to his book: "This book should be read almost as though it were science fiction."
  
  Richard Dawkins, The Selfish Gene, 1976, p. ix:
  
  "This book should be read almost as though it were science fiction. It is designed to appeal to the imagination. But it is not science fiction: it is science. Cliché or not, "stranger than fiction" expresses exactly how I feel about the truth."

  My Mother: I've got to go now. I should have took you to the hall,when you were younger. But now I have to do the best I can. I believe it's the truth. I want you to know I believe JW has the truth. I can only do the best I can now. Hoping for you until the day.

  It must be terrible to be a JW or some who believes them, because they think that everyone including their children pretty much have a death sentence.
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  How can I convince my mother the JW's are wrong?

  by schnare in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is probably going to be a long post, since i am going to be added some parts of our conversations on facebook.

  my mother has been involved sort of with the jw's, since she was younger.

  so she's always kind of believed in their stuff.

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  oompa, that would be awesome to the letter, so I can have more information to back me up. I don't know, if any will work to be honest. I could probably show her a video of the GB admitting something and she'd still deny it. "Satan doesn't want any to find the truth..." or something like that.
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  How can I convince my mother the JW's are wrong?

  by schnare in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is probably going to be a long post, since i am going to be added some parts of our conversations on facebook.

  my mother has been involved sort of with the jw's, since she was younger.

  so she's always kind of believed in their stuff.

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  Ding, I don't she's confident enough to do D2D yet I think she would like to eventually, but she's trying to build her way there. Also she isn't even baptized, so I don't think it's really required or am I wrong? Abible Student, she probably wouldn't go anywhere near crisis of conscience. It would be from "satan" according to her probably. That verse sounds exactly like the watchtower especially the " The due time has approached" or "It's right around the corner".