and with it the language in the w.t loosing its authority?.
i ask the question because, with the g.b now appearing before members on their social media, and reluctantly on royal commissions my opinion is :-.
a) the g.b can no longer hide like wells's invisible man.
They have left themselves out to dry, and showing they are no spiritual people, Herd is the latest to show his face and give a sad update on the state of affairs regarding the dismissal of the Bethelites, special pioneers, etc.
BUT he did mention the money keeps flowing in -- of course - should he have told the truth, it would have greatly disappointed the R&F - Notice that he did not say those leaving would receive anything for their years of hard work! A loving brother indeed.
through this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.
initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.
all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.
Elders are not trained to handle social and psychological issues - they are window washer, truck drivers, work part time, no college, no real social skills to deal with abuse or mental illness crisises.
The WTBTS can be mentioned along these lines as they constantly berate those who want a better education, threatening to remove elders and MS if their child goes to college - so how in ....... can they deal with child abuse or emotional/mental illnesses????
i think that 80% of jws do not truly believe in what they are taught .
the vast majority stay in because of family, friends, ignorance and a lack of caring about any of the facts regarding the "truth".
many people are lazy.
Brokeback
I know a few "laid off" from the society and they don't think its cruel.. they BELIEVE it is for the greater good -- the end is near - they have been told they are needed in the field and do all they can towards that end.
They are leaving in increments.. the newer first, middle - next then the oldies last from a span of 1 month to 3 months - without anything, without money, without jobs to the congregation for support if they don't have family.. No kids to help... those in their late 50's or 60's may not have parents to help them..... they need work, a job, furniture.....
They are as brainwashed as I would say 65% are today....
through this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.
initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.
all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.
Vidiot
I do think the child abuse issue and two witness rule will be their downfall... God did not want the Israelites to sacrifice their children to false gods, yet the society is causing them spiritual, physical and emotional harm - what more they cannot do.... it is a crime and I am sure it will be called to account - which seems to be happening now.... and from all places- the world.........who ultimately seems to havemore compassion than the truth
Yet there isn't a whisper about it within the congregations, there was a time when we talked back and forth among ourselves but the society has them so wound up about time of the end and all the things happening now with the society,the cutbacks, the preaching cause end is near --- people are being side tracked from main issues such as the CA issue
through this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.
initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.
all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.
Don't know if it was mentioned, but what about getting rid of the two witness rule - no one will be invited to a child abuse that would not be enjoying it.... and they don't testify on themselves
The two witness rule was about adults;;-- not children
the more i think about it, the more i feel an extreme dislike for the apostle paul.
he was on par with hitler in his treatment of the jews before he "saw the light".
he replaced jesus teachings of love and mercy with a more legalistic, pharisaical concept of devotion to god.. any evil person can come to believe in god and worship him if the scales were literally and miraculously removed from his eyes.
The Levite Priest who sent his wife out to the trolls to be raped all night and then she died on the doorstep, he took her body and cut it into 12 pieces and sent a piece to the 12 tribes.
Then blamed it on someone else.
just one little thought....adam & eve ate the fruit from the tree "of the knowledge of good & evil".
so..in other words, before they ate they did not know right from wrong...hmmmm so how can you blame someone who does not know right from wrong?.
for a crime to take place in human law you must have the act - 'actus reus' - and the guilty mind or 'mens rea' as it is termed.
Freemindfade:
Insight Book may say that but - Jehovah put a cherub in the Garden to oversee it - hence Satan -- Ezekiel 28 refers to King of Tyre and also The cherub that walked on the holy mountain covered in precious stones who was beautiful.... Interesting chapter
So apparently he could not have been bad in heaven or he would not have been given that position on earth.
somebody mentioned in a recent topic that they had a conversation with a former elder whose breaking point was when the overlapping generation was highlighted in recent times and how he would never serve again until somebody gave him a scriptural reason to believe it.
i am in a similar position.
i have gone in the last 18 months from taking the wt study, leading fs groups, and doing talks on the mtngs to doing almost nothing, as i resigned a little over a year ago as an elder due to a combination of family responsibilities and huge doubts.
i guess being two months old and coming to the kh in his onesee was kind of offensive .
how rude of me.
i am thinking about returning to him.
this could have been a heartfelt gift, however, keep the kid in what you can take care of, diaper changes, milk spilled, upchuck, whatever -- tell that guy appreciate it but its not the time. Does he have kids, if not, he doesn't know what he is doing...
Don't be afraid of him, he is just a man and as the WT says an imperfect one at that!! Love that line.
If your in the truth, they don't mind their own business - its a "family" - everyone knows everyones business and talks about it to others.
elder: plese watch the november programm on jw broadcasting.. me: what i hope for is the change of the doctrine that states that jesus is not the mediator between jehovah and all jw's but only between jehovah and the 144000. i believe jesus is my mediator even if i am not one of the 144000. .
elder: may jehovah open your mind and heart.
me: may he open everyone's mind and heart.
Finkelstein
They have been saying that for years.. in the WT ... yet no one picks it up.... because I am mentally questioning everything, I pick up what they are saying and a lot of times, its mostly between the lines of a study edition. Shady, inuendos, pictures that show Jehovahs throne and written below it for the order is Governing Body, Elders, Ministerial Servants, Other sheep.... Jesus not listed
There is no other way to come to God without believing in Jesus and his redemptive power because of him giving his life for mankind,,,,, yet the GB is wheedling their way in between that relationship and setting themselves up as the mediator for mankind.
Go into the library on JW.Org and type in question" Is Jesus Mediator for Other Sheep?" - They boldly say ":No" - only for the Anointed. and yes you are right - this is a ego driven power grab for the minds and hearts of the congregations... and its working !!!
