Posts by truthlover123

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Why do so many that leave wind up coming back?!

by nowwhat? in

i have seen so many that have left.

and their life turned into a dumpster fire.

most do not live the average life of living in suburbs, raising a family.

truthlover123

In thinking about leaving, I regurgitate the old thought - Where do I go?... I will lose my friends. but now I am thinking, what friends? I thought that over and determined that I don't really have that many, it's a clickish congregation, age plays a factor in being asked out, as does being single, So really, all the nice smiles and how are you's in passing just don't make for good friends. I have been out of the hall for a month at a time with illnesses, but never received a call.- maybe 2 now that I think of it. Storms -- clean it myself or hire someone... so what am I doing there??

I have started to reconnect with my family and am having a ball.. they don't smoke, don't drink to excess and have great family get-togethers.....

Call me slow fade

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Sign JW Data Protection Form Or Else!

by AverageJoe1 in

in spain (and the rest of europe), the "improved" data protection laws come into force on 25th may 2018. this is a good thing and sadly america is still lagging behind; not surprising with their current president!.

watchtower legal department are hot on the case and have instructed elders to hand out the new "release" forms out to all the publishers in their groups, whilst making it clear to them that they won't have any privileges if they refuse to do so!.

note these points in the instructions:.

truthlover123

Could signing allow WTBTS to tell the law they will not release any records to them because they now speak for the pub (who committed child abuse) and pull out this legal document to prove it?

Would save society millions and stop bankruptcy...

Just a thought

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God wipes out humans/wickedness in Noah's Flood but somehow wickedness returns

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

genesis 6: 9-139 this is the account of noah and his family.noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time, and he walked faithfully with god.

10 noah had three sons: shem, ham and japheth.11 now the earth was corrupt in god’s sight and was full of violence.12 god saw how corrupt the earth had become, for all the people on earth had corrupted their ways.

13 so god said to noah, “i am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them.

truthlover123

Noah and his family were all descendants of bad blood -- DNA - gene pool was diluted so it was impossible for that not to show up after the flood

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You MUST Sign the Data Collection Form "...obey...whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.¨"

by gone for good in

the many and complex issues surrounding the collection of person data and new laws aiming to protect individuals control of their own privacy, seem to have hatched about the same time as the governing body expressed their hope that it´s own 8 million would obey their order to "sign this form" effectively transfering total authority over privacy and data issues over to the borg.. what are your thoughts on this coincidence?.

zuckerberg lost billion$$ when people realized that he had prostituted their personal data and now wt wants the same signed access that he had to info that is $$$.... wt already owns all the real estate and now wants to own all the data.... it´s a current and global issue - please share your thought with the rest of us here.. .

truthlover123

So is this form that the WTBTS meant to be able suppress personal information of the pub should that pub be a child abuser?

Is the WTBTS doing this to actually say to the law they cannot hand over personal information due to the signing of this privacy info of a suspected abuser?

It would save the society from going bankrupt.... just a thought

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Personal Data Permission (Spain)

by paradiseseeker in

jw
friends

i had the meeting yesterday and there it was announced that there will be a new law passed in spain regarding personal data.

that law makes it compulsory for the wt spanish branch to collect a signed permission from the publishers to keep and utilize personal data.

no choice was given to us, we were just told to make sure we hand in our signed permissions before may 18th.

truthlover123

Would this "privacy Form" be required so as to protect child molesters from releasing information to police, lawyers, etc. because they now have signed over to the WTBTS to be their representative in keeping things quiet?

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July 2018 WT points

by The Fall Guy in

page 16, par.

18 carefully follow the latest directions.. do we faithfully follow the latest directions that jehovah has given us?

if so, we will not rely on always doing things the way we have done them in the past.

truthlover123

Inspired..anointed...direct from God..

Mistakes with generation, mistakes with 1914 and 1919

Mistakes with 1975

mistakes with blood - now allowed parts of blood- how many died?

Scripture says - a prophet's word is true or else it is not from God--NOT from GOd!!!!!

No inspiration, no anointed by HS, no direct from God... therefore

8 men playing a big mind game on millions

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Two witness rule: Stop using it, its not working on JWs!

by StephaneLaliberte in

most jws don't see this as a problem.

they reason that.

just like the jws, the police will not convict a pedophile over the story of one victim alone, there must be collaborative evidence.

truthlover123

So Jesus goes to Warwick... Meets with the GB and says "Let all the children come to me" - What do you think would happen? How many thousands of children would turn them in? FInd the GB bloodguilty - they have treated these children with contempt and most of all, the kids have lost the trust the society instilled in them at an early age - groomed to LOVE our brothers and sisters ....so to speak... by not hearing of their plight and the GB wanting to hid their money that they are sucking out of the pubs when the perp is found guilty in a court of law- these children are as lost souls due to the GB ignorance and GREED..and lie when it gets too hot, as Geoff Jackson did in Australia at the ARC where 1,006 perps were uncovered who were never reported to police and probably abused more than one child--that leads to several thousand abuses in Australia alone.. ole Jackies home land.

They have abused and discredited the God of the Scriptures-- blackened His name and hid behind one scripture that was used for adult crimes....who really wants to do door to door anymore???or attend meetings?? Memorial numbers down in hall this year.....

Clergy-pentitant prov is being rescinded in some states- hopefully more will follow

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Sign JW Data Protection Form Or Else!

by AverageJoe1 in

in spain (and the rest of europe), the "improved" data protection laws come into force on 25th may 2018. this is a good thing and sadly america is still lagging behind; not surprising with their current president!.

watchtower legal department are hot on the case and have instructed elders to hand out the new "release" forms out to all the publishers in their groups, whilst making it clear to them that they won't have any privileges if they refuse to do so!.

note these points in the instructions:.

truthlover123

The EU is covering a case now about those who proselytize - who else? and that they are collecting private information on those they call on and revisit. 27 countries will have to follow the directive along with JWs when decision is reached.

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Brother and friends

by menrov in

so, according to wt doctrine, we are brothers, right?

so, if we are all so-called brothers, that we all have one father, right?

if we are just friends of our creator, then we are not brothers.

truthlover123

Sorry - mostly it's men (brothers) sisters are mentioned only from the platform or in prayer by those who regard women as sisters - or people--most do not

Good old boys club-- yet 65% of JWs are women -- so says PEW Research

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Two witness rule: Stop using it, its not working on JWs!

by StephaneLaliberte in

most jws don't see this as a problem.

they reason that.

just like the jws, the police will not convict a pedophile over the story of one victim alone, there must be collaborative evidence.

truthlover123

Years ago. there were no laws standing on abuse or child abuse. Women and kids were second-class citizens and that is still true today in many areas of the world. So cases of abuse and incest went unreported or children had to put up with relatives and parents abusing them. Many in the law turned away from doing anything or let the perp off with a warning to go home and repeat...the same way the elders handle a case..

When someones conscience started to work, this all changed but then crimes went underground. We know sex crimes take place, people try to stop it, but those who are seedy characters still commit these wrongs. The Bible speaks of many sexual issues yet nothing is mentioned about a child being abused yet anyone with a moral compass does not need to have a scripture to protect an innocent. The two witness rule was discussed among adults of the age- parents were responsible for a child and as such, their protector. Why do parents allow their children to go with someone in a congregation they think they know?? Even to the bathroom alone during a meeting or assembly? There are still states that do not have laws to report these crimes..why? Org is taking advantage of these loopholes to not report..Times have changed and so better the org or bankruptcy will follow along with 50% of their pubs- that appears to have started