Posts by truthlover123

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Is the WT right that the Lamb's marriage is after Armageddon?

by Kosonen in

the wt org claims that the lamb's marriage will happen after armageddon, despite the fact that revelation 19 very clearly says that the lamb's marriage happens after the destruction of babylon the great.

and that after the lamb's marriage he with heavenly armies will go to destroy the wicked.. the wt claims that the order of events in revelation 19 is not really in that order referring to psalm 45. but i can't find in psalm 45 any explicit contradiction to revelation 19. .

paragraph 10 in the following article shows the wt org's view point:.

truthlover123

- Re vs 39 -fulfillment of the promise--- looking at vs 16 it says that they are reaching out for a better better place, one belonging to heaven as God has prepared a place for them... this would indicate those who were named previously in Chtp 11 were in the same league as those in Paul's day, as shown in vs 40 when it says " so that they may not be made perfect apart from us"? Where is this place God prepared for them in heaven or on earth ? What scripture does it say that Abraham and the rest will be on earth? Abraham was promised an heir- leading to Jesus, land, to be a father of many- what scripture does it say he will be resurrected to earth and not in the "better place belonging to heaven ?

I realize that those who died prior to Jesus' sacrifice remained in the grave but after his sacrifice, things took a turn but no one knows to what degree. Why is there a date of 1914/1918 attributed to the ascension of the "Holy ones"? Are you depending on Daniels count of time?

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Seven Reasons Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are Leaving Their Religion.

by Hairyhegoat in

these are good comments to consider enjoy!.

jehovah's witnesses who leave their religion, do so for many different reasons.

here are seven.. watchtower prophecies and dates for armageddon have failed repeatedly.

truthlover123

fed up, tired, angry, disillusioned, mad I was so stupid and gullible thinking just because they knew some of the bible they were right and then, after baptism, they did a bait and switch to the org as my "saviour" before I could see it coming, tying me to all kinds of restrictions (including my worldly family ) and made laws to keep congregation and org "clean" yet hiding their money and child abuse scheming behind closed NDA's.

Not to mention the selling off of halls that were donated and upkept by publishers who had NO SAY in the profits derived from the sales which are still ongoing.

wash, rinse and repeat

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Did Jesus COME with the clouds of heaven in 1914?

by Fisherman in

take for example revelation 21: 10. .

“….and he showed me the holy city jerusalem coming down out of heaven from god.

here john sees something happening, action.

truthlover123

extrapolating 1000 years to the one day, Jesus would be gone only 82 years since first century in "space" time

41.67 years x 2centuries = 82 years ( 3 minutes would be 2.08 years)

SO: looking at Jesus reference, there has been little time between there and now - a life time for us. But then there is the measurement of time by the Jewish folk, so it may be close but who really knows

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Is the WT right that the Lamb's marriage is after Armageddon?

by Kosonen in

the wt org claims that the lamb's marriage will happen after armageddon, despite the fact that revelation 19 very clearly says that the lamb's marriage happens after the destruction of babylon the great.

and that after the lamb's marriage he with heavenly armies will go to destroy the wicked.. the wt claims that the order of events in revelation 19 is not really in that order referring to psalm 45. but i can't find in psalm 45 any explicit contradiction to revelation 19. .

paragraph 10 in the following article shows the wt org's view point:.

truthlover123

Continuing on with Hebrews, Paul also stated at 11:39,40 they they will all resurrected at the same time so this disproves the assertion by the org.that FDS started to be resurrected since 1914-1918 and are speaking to the GB and directing the "chariot", as study articles and direction are stated.

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Anthony Morris the III has been FOUND

by Terry in

jw
friends

note: photos can be found on the blue envelope channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nakezkhqbmtony and susan morris are living in lumberton, north carolina.

a real estate document on the robeson county website is filed:.

the religious order of jehovah's witnesses has provided a "life estate" for them.they can live in this townhouse until they are deceased or choose to move away and in either case the ownership becomes entirely the property of jehovah's witnesses.

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Wonder who will be coming for dinner?

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Where Does Watchtower Doctrine Contradict Scripture?

by Vanderhoven7 in

here are some areas that i have found:.

not only is watchtower eschatology offbase, which is not critical, but so is watchtower soteriology … which is critical.

the bible says not to put trust in men who cannot save.

truthlover123

Such a good discussion

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The Watchtower is in the renovation NOT construction business now

by raymond frantz in

the watchtower is officially in the renovation business now (no more building) because the "brothers"(freemasonic scum of pensylvania?

) know best 🤣🤣🤣.

***from the latest watchtower article 07/12/23.

truthlover123

Society continues to feed the pubs with this "growing" scenario to keep the money flowing but the one day and three day in our area were wash outs for donations and attendance. If they let off on the growth idea of this org, then people will become depressed thinking the days are gone for growth- leading to less money in coffers as this org relies heavily on new converts for money - Amway system. Last year there were only two videos of hall construction projects - wow- what happened to the 1200- 1500 per year that was projected.. I see halls being sold, not built yet praise is given for the smallest percentage to keep folks giving and giving ad nauseum

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Only baptised JWs will make it?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

i think it was a john cedars video or someone else’s where the point was brought up that only baptised jws will be saved?

then one talk about kids of baptised jws hope they will make it but even them don’t know.

most jws probably think that some good people who are not baptised may make it through, but this is not official teaching?.

truthlover123

We never once pushed our child to get baptized. I am so glad now because I would not be allowed to have his support that we need at this time. NO df, no problem. He had enough drama growing up with the stand alone in the hall for the flag, no parties, no worldly friends, no anything so at a teenage year, he said nomore meetings and we agreed- we did not throw him out but worked around the problems and life went on.

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[GOOD NEWS] My PIMI wife became PIMQ!

by psyco in

after a few years, unexpectedly, my pimi wife became pimq.. today she even asked me a question that i found very interesting:.

if god has been anointing women to be part of the kings and priests over humankind, why cannot they currently rule and guide 8 million people being part of the governing body (acquiring experience in that role as well)?.

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If they are genderless after the resurrection, then it should not matter now- if men are anointed (which I can't believe they way money is god), then women should be anointed and able to sit on the GB as well now - wife is right in questioning this... but society runs on Apostle Pauls idea of not letting women speak yet Jesus spoke freely to women, valued women and scripture put value on women prophet Deborah along with recognizing that only women were present to verify Jesus ascension- the guys were not there, so much for their spirituality

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Only baptised JWs will make it?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

i think it was a john cedars video or someone else’s where the point was brought up that only baptised jws will be saved?

then one talk about kids of baptised jws hope they will make it but even them don’t know.

most jws probably think that some good people who are not baptised may make it through, but this is not official teaching?.

truthlover123

Yes this is the same old, same old they have been spouting for years. I find it difficult to tell pubs that their non jw children and grandchildren are not going to make it as they are oblivious to the loving guidelines they are being given by WT'S. They visit regularly with the families, laugh, BBQ go to get togethers, but none in the "world" coming into the org, so that means death to all not baptized. I was told Jehovah is judge of hearts so how can they make a definite law that Jehovah does not