Take a look at question 2- they removed the words, holy spirit and replace with with Gods organization, which it is not! They changed scripture to suit their construct.
truthlover123
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What Book is Required for Baptism Now?
by LeeMerk inis it this "enjoy life forever - interactive study guide"?
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is there a second book also?
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Will recent dress-code changes affect the WTS negatively?
by Wonderment inin a span of a few months time, we have had many unexpected changes announced by the jw organization.
some here have expressed the belief that a great number of witnesses will leave the religion.
in fact, there is a great probability the opposite will be true.. yeah, ancient hardliners will have a hard time assimilating these changes, but the younger generation will likely welcome these changes.
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truthlover123
I am a NPIMO - not physically in but mentally out - I go on zoom but have no contact with the hall or sometimes, not even the meetings. I am on the line, organization wise, and these changes are not surprising. Following the board and news from country to country, it was a given that things had to change. Unfortunately, the GB say they received the message from on high, so as to make the pubs believe it was His idea to put all these changes in place. They (cong) will go along with it, it will take time to see results. They are still pushing field service and cart work and pioneering! Hell, there are 45 from this one congregation signed up for March/April. For me I will be following the new clothes directive and loving it all the way for the one day soon to come. I am going as I want to be nosy and see who are doing what after all this good news was delivered. Looks like there is more than one type of "Good News".
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JWs in Norway lost to the state - will not get state support back
by BelisemDeBelimakom intranslated with google translate:.
the trial went before oslo district court in january, and now the district court has concluded that the state is acquitted.
jehovah's witnesses are also ordered to pay court costs of just over nok 1.1 million.. https://www-vg-no.translate.goog/nyheter/innenriks/i/2bljxg/staten-frikjennes-etter-aa-ha-blitt-saksoekt-av-jehovas-vitner-melder-dagen?_x_tr_sl=ka&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp.
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Hopefully this is just a start and other countries, especially in the EU will take notice. That will alert other countries, Australia, Britain, and the US where all the ca cases are going on.
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New approach to ministry
by Mikejw inthere is a new approach to ministry where the direction is to just talk to people and listen to what they want to talk about.
the new school for the midweek meeting is completely different and is all about the new approach .
even before the no reporting changes field service dropped right off.
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truthlover123
Oh my, I am so disappointed. Each month I would get a text from an elder asking for my time and "how are you doing". Now, with the thumbs up click, no text even to say Hi, How are you?
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For all JW's: Stop calling others "apostates."
by BoogerMan inif you don't want to be thrown into gehenna, read what your own faithful evil slave & christ say:.
cj chap.
3 p. 110 chapter 3 - "jesus christ said: “whoever says, ‘you despicable fool!’ (apostate) will be liable to the fiery gehenna.” (matt.
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truthlover123
What they fail to say is that mostly, folks who are called apostate, to a jw it means they have left Jehovah and Jesus and the holy spirit. Well they are wrong in that, because they just left an organization that has blackwashed all that with their lies. If a person wakes up the only thing applying to them is, they left a massive control organization that USES God, Jesus and holy spirit to their dirty end. I am sure people who have seen the light still have their own connection to God. That is the biggest thing they can't take away but this org has the dermerity to say all who leave are apostates. The label is to keep the flock from engaging.
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Waiting On Jehovah First Mentioned?
by Ron.W. inyes, waiting on jehovah for him to handle a problem/ doctrine etc.. when did the jw's first start saying that?
they've been saying it as long as i can remember.. what scriptures do they trot out to back that teaching up?
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truthlover123
Also, when issues with the brothers and sisters arise or there is a media report about a negativity, the catch phrase is" wait on Jehovah, He will take care of it". But if you are the one having the issue, it's damn hard to hear that, knowing the elders are not doing their job in reporting to local authorities, depending on what has happened. Or a brother has run off with your money, or your wife, and so on. It's their way out when they do not know what to do... Blame it on the rain.
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Can you openly express doubts in the congregation these days?
by Elena ini know of a lovely old sister who has been a jw for several decades now who openly expresses doubts about jw interpretations.. she does it in such a lovely way and everyone loves her.
she is such a sweet old soul, makes everyone happy around her.. she has said things like- even if we have got it wrong about this and that i still believe the bible is gods word”.
she answers up regularly and she goes on ministry groups but like most of us she is definitely jwlite, we don’t really do door to door work anymore.
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truthlover123
Oh Elena, the answer to your question, is NO. Emphatically No.. you will be marked and the elders will pay a shepherding call to see if you believe the GB are spirit empowered by Jehovah and if this is the true religion.
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Can you openly express doubts in the congregation these days?
by Elena ini know of a lovely old sister who has been a jw for several decades now who openly expresses doubts about jw interpretations.. she does it in such a lovely way and everyone loves her.
she is such a sweet old soul, makes everyone happy around her.. she has said things like- even if we have got it wrong about this and that i still believe the bible is gods word”.
she answers up regularly and she goes on ministry groups but like most of us she is definitely jwlite, we don’t really do door to door work anymore.
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truthlover123
I would think rather than being loud or confrontational about the changes, she opts for the loving, smiling type of individual who "whispers" the wrongs and changes of this organization so that slyly she lands those doubts on receptive ears, maybe opening them to the wrongness of what is going on. PIMO no doubt. She probably raises a question about a situation, then comes back with the "Jehovah will handle it murmur." I know I do. Say you do not understand, Shrug your shoulders and have a cookie.
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Stop the Electric car solar power brainwashing Lies!!
by Witness 007 inford e.v cars lost the company 1.3 billion in three months!
i put 18 solar panels on my house but only get a small rebate $50 a quarter.
bill is $400.
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For all the hype about go more electric, Western Canada is receiving so much cold from the polar vortex, the grid can't handle to drain so they are asking people to cut back on usage! Cut Back? Some provinces are sending electricity to help with the problem. If this type of weather continues, people will be worrying about living , so many homeless in the streets even if warming areas set up.
Heat exchangers do not work in temps below -15, they need electricity or wood or gas to survive.
Now add ev's to this equation, the powers that be should have upgraded power supplies years before this great idea hatched.
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Is Jesus God?
by Sea Breeze ini know that a lot of historical names have claimed to be a god.
but, jesus arguably claimed to be god.
scripture says he's the creator.
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truthlover123
I always ask, what is the importance of sitting at the right? In scripture, many times are we told that God said to Jesus "sit at my right hand", or He is sitting at God's right hand- a seat of major importance and trust
-Mark 12:36/Luke 20:42/Acts 2:34/Acts 7:55/Romans 8:34/Heb 1:13/Heb 10:12/ Heb 12:2/ 1Peter 3:22/Rev 5:7
In Ps 110:1 -"LORD said to my Lord"- I was always under the impression that all caps meant the senior, while the junior was one cap with remaining small letters.
Heb 1: 5,6- says - "You are my son, I have become your father" and the Father brought that Firstborn to the inhabited earth.
IN Isaiah 9:6, Jesus is referred to as the Mighty God, Prince of Peace . Rev 1:8 shows Jehovah, Elohim, El, and more names is the ALmighty God. Many more times in scripture is the "Almighty" shown.
Just my thoughts