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  People who work free for the cult for many years

  by ThomasDam21 in

  1. watchtower
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  new to the forum.

  i have a question i did not get any feed back for on another site.

  what to these people who gave decades working for free in bethel when they are 60 plus years old.

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  In Canada, IF they ever worked and paid into CPP they can start to get this at age 60 and if a disability can get the disability pension. At age 65 they get an old age pension - everyone.

  What has been going on in "bethel" is a sorry, we don not need you anymore (medical issues, age, cutting costs) with the volunteers (for years) who have signed a poverty clause when they volunteered, not to expect any funds when they leave, after putting thousands of hours working in a closed environment.

  In the big purge back about 12 years ago 2200 were put out to pasture, with only the job experience they had acquired while at bethel. Yes, some received courses, so they would be ok, but mostly had to go back to congregations without furniture, apartment, medical, or a job, etc. At that point, the congregations who would be struggling too, had another issue to contend with. This cleansing takes place regularly when they can get new, strong blood in
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  Listen obey and get vaxed

  by JohnR1975 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the truth is most active jws would probably agree that most of the teachings are not right, the new thing is that we just don’t know.. the governing body now say they get things wrong and make mistakes as they are not inspired and not infallible.

  yet they are still to be trusted no matter what?.

  they are not trusted.

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  Sorry, they did not mention anything about getting the vax just a reminder to stay home if sick. I guess getting it is up to the individual now.
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  A Jehovah's Witness family's excellent Letter of Resignation trending on exjw Reddit today

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i got an email notice today on this excellent letter of resignation from a german family that is trending on reddit.

  i thought i would share it here if anyone is so inclined to write one.

  for those with pimi jw family and jw business connections, it may not be wise to share such a letter, but i imagine it must be very freeing to send such a letter.

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  "Not called by the name Jehovahs Witnesses" - true Jesus said "you are my witnesses". Is that why the push towards Jesus at the 3 day and new song? As the governments recognize "Christian" religions, they do not see JW's as that, so as becoming mainstream with slacks and beards, now highlighting Jesus could be another ploy to overcome some kind of inspection.

  This is a good letter. I agree with all points.

  The org is switching conventions, changing congregations who have to get there as a way to avoid or confuse the pubs as to the number in attendance anymore. Cant see old friends, cant travel with the regular group or families. And do not attend any other conventions, go to where assigned! Obey, obey
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  Listen obey and get vaxed

  by JohnR1975 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the truth is most active jws would probably agree that most of the teachings are not right, the new thing is that we just don’t know.. the governing body now say they get things wrong and make mistakes as they are not inspired and not infallible.

  yet they are still to be trusted no matter what?.

  they are not trusted.

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  Still haven't been back to the hall since covid. I like a distance. However, a letter was read last week regarding MPOX, the monkey pox- they did not advise getting the vaccine but if sick stay home.
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  Do you recognize this?

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  thinking sometimes about my youth days and the stories my grandfather told me about our jw congregation.

  do you recognize that your congregation was full of somehowe strange folks, very low educated, poor and simple?.

  the po was an elder with some distance, with some personality acting intelligent and following the rules strict.. there was always a kind of scandal.

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  Yes, exactly. Remember when no colored shirts and no sports jackets if you wanted to give a talk. Congregation made up of self employed, farmers, window washers, poorly educated brothers and sisters - I say this because in our province only one to three overseers to take care of many -well travelled congregations- all small, all a good distance from each other. Those who pioneered stayed in brothers homes. No elders at that time until 1971-72. That was in the country -and in cities, mainly employed with those already set up in businesses. Talk about the end of the system started about 1975 around 1973-74 with magazines and field ministry updates plus being mentioned at assemblies-off the platform. Brothers sold homes, furniture, businesses- membership increased dramatically as those out came back in along with interested ones. So many issues for the elders at that time - adultery, secular divorce, child abuse, sexual morays- calls at 3 am cause a brother was drunk.... it was handled, went away and back on track. this was just one congregation. After 1975, membership started to drop again and the famous anointed number was talked about as "when you see the last of the anointed, you know the end is come"-- back then it was about 6-7,000 anointed- now over 22,000.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses came by today.

  by 3rdgen in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this morning i was in our front yard sitting down pulling weeds when i saw 3 people slowly walking on the sidewalk in my direction.

  2 of them were young, handsome, clean shaven, wearing nice crisp white shirts and perfectly tailored black slacks.

  they could have been mormons except.... there was a 60ish portly woman wearing a frumpy dress and ugly sandals.

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  Dressed as she was, its a wonder the elders didn't address that. There are always talks about dress. No doubt it was hot, she is older and needs to be cooler, I can see that. You handled it well and were courteous. Good for you.
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  The Texas Border has been overpowered

  by liam in

  1. social
  2. current

  in del rio texas, the border patrol can't hold back the invasion of illegal migrants anymore.

  they have asked the biden administration for help, but they refused.

  harris has promised to give all illegal migrants citizenship if she is becomes president.

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  Same in Canada- and even though everyone is crazy upset, nothing being done - homelessness is rampant as no places to put them except in hotels and government paying for it (taxpayers I mean) In Toronto the shelters are overwhelmed- many on the streets, small homes being built everywhere for Canadians who have no place to live and rents increased dramatically. it's a shit show with all kinds of apologies from "government" but little headway. We need to stop inflow as well.
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  Did your witness family have a 'Thanksgiving' that wasn't on Thanksgiving?

  by SydBarrett in

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  2. friends

  my family had several elders, ministerial servants, auxillary pioneers etc, so it certainly wasn't one of those 'barely in' families.

  but in certain small ways, i think mine were slightly less hard line than some other families i've heard stories about over the years.

  one example was the 'fall dinner'.

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  Yes, ad did the same at xmas.... good times good food and lots of laughs, sorry to say - all gone now
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  Thoughts on annual meeting “new light”

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.

  old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.

  the “door of the ark” is closed.

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  To bring this back on the board should be good information for those who faith has dwindled because of those at Bethel making it up as they go. This annual meeting recap shows just how much the org is grabbing at straws to keep operating and bringing in the money. There is no such thing as new light - the holy spirit does not change its direction as it is from God- new light makes the old obsolete along with the lives that put faith in it. I can't think or hear of a specific belief system that changes as much as jw's. The wheels are falling off the chariot.
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  Does this sound familiar?

  by LostintheFog1999 in

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  2. beliefs

  i came across this in a psychology magazine i was reading and seeing the left-hand list i immediately thought it was a fair description of my former jw congregation.

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  truthlover123

  Dysfunctional - in every respect