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  Only baptised JWs will make it?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think it was a john cedars video or someone else’s where the point was brought up that only baptised jws will be saved?

  then one talk about kids of baptised jws hope they will make it but even them don’t know.

  most jws probably think that some good people who are not baptised may make it through, but this is not official teaching?.

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  Yes this is the same old, same old they have been spouting for years. I find it difficult to tell pubs that their non jw children and grandchildren are not going to make it as they are oblivious to the loving guidelines they are being given by WT'S. They visit regularly with the families, laugh, BBQ go to get togethers, but none in the "world" coming into the org, so that means death to all not baptized. I was told Jehovah is judge of hearts so how can they make a definite law that Jehovah does not
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  'church elders are told to report any allegations of child sexual abuse to the authorities immediately'

  by was a new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  'the spokesperson also said that church elders are told to report any allegations of child sexual abuse to the authorities immediately, even if there is only one complainant.'.

  https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/rebekah-vardy-sexually-abused-child-jehovahs-witnesses/.

  is this true?

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  And they are still giving talks off platform in halls- as an elder gave last week, that false religion are the ones committing such sexual offences against children!

  Do they even know what they are saying in that statement? They are currently at the forefront of CSA

  What a crock!
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  Lots of empty seats at Jehovah's Witnesses Convention in Tucson, Arizona

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/5926nhzyz90.

  the jehovah's witness 2023 convention theme is, ''exercise patience''...by looking at the attendance at this tucson, arizona convention, it should be changed to, '' jehovah's witnesses...running out of patience''.

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  Gas right now in this area is $1.77 per litre and going up again re the so called new carbon tax, so with that in mind, who will be travelling for 4 hours to attend and pay a hotel and food for the privilege of being there to see videos.
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  JWs unrecognisable compared to my grandfathers time

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my grandfather who has been dead for 37 years would not recognise the borganisation today.

  he would turn in his grave if he knew the end didn’t come by 2023.. back in the 1970s he really believed in the 75 thing.

  he was so disappointed and almost blamed everyone else why the end didn’t come.

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  Meant to say, this is the one I choose back then but this is not the same one I know now......
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  JWs unrecognisable compared to my grandfathers time

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my grandfather who has been dead for 37 years would not recognise the borganisation today.

  he would turn in his grave if he knew the end didn’t come by 2023.. back in the 1970s he really believed in the 75 thing.

  he was so disappointed and almost blamed everyone else why the end didn’t come.

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  No doubt about it! If Jesus was to appear and look at the then and now, there would not no more "truth". (presupposing He even approved it back then).

  The org I was baptized into used the complete scripture in Matthew including the Holy Spirit, not the one today baptizing you into a "spiritually approved version of the Jehovahs Witnesses- who approved them to be the one true religion since Geoffrey Jackson said they org was presumptuous if they thought they were the only true religion in the ARC deposition?

  Who said it was ok to sell off all the halls that were dedicated to Jehovah? Did He tell them to do that? I don't think so. Now our hall is going at $500K, many others over 1 - 5 Million.. who says there isn't money in volunteer built halls. Jesus hardly slept, had little clothing, little food. no mod of travel save a donkey and feet yet these 8 human males believe only they have holy spirit- being pampered like kings, controlling every part of everyones existence and allowed to do so because governments and religion are in the same bed, therefore protection, in some states and regions will not touch them with a ten foot pole. Money talks, conscience walks

  SO this is not the one I choose back then this is not the one I know now-- I want a divorce, lied to and scammed for my volunteerism, my money, my life.
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  First post here. Inactive since January, making it permanent. Here is my intro

  by madisoncembre in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  new poster to this site.

  i've started blogging and would like to share my experiences with you.

  bear with me as i am completely new to this.

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  madisoncembre

  Welcome and I hope not intrusive with my answer, as I see it-

  You sound very strong and capable for standing up for yourself. It's always a denial to think that when the abuse starts, things can be your fault and "if I try harder, it will get better." To go to the elders? No, they will tell you to stay with him and he will concoct a good story, but leaving out the mistress part, saying you are at fault and need to study and pray more

  It sounds like he continued seeing his mistress and abusing you to try and get you to leave, of course, citing that you left him and the elders would see you as "Spiritually sick" and poor him! If you did that, you would have abandoned your home and would be at fault.

  Did you keep pictures? Have you contacted government services to report these issues? You need to get someone on your side as apparently, his daddy has money and lord knows who he knows...

  How can they cut your off a joint account? Did you speak with bank manager?
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  WEASEL WORDS--WHAT ARE THEY--HOW THE WTS USES

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "a number of techniques employed to mislead others fall under the category of weasel words, and this article quotes examples that are regularly found in watchtower publications.. weasel words are defined as:.

  “words or statements that are intentionally ambiguous or misleading,”[1].

  intended “to avoid answering a question clearly or to make someone believe something that is not true."[2].

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  Blondie- so nice your back! WT reviews comments missed so much and the weasel words- yes, I have always said that to anyone who would listen-

  The unfortunate thing is that pubs giving parroted answers from a paragraph indicate that the weasel words are fact, not that there is a "we understand", " possibly", "indicates", 'logically" and on and on....
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  What about the Transfiguration?

  by lovelylil in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many people wonder about this vision and why the disciples witnessed it and what does the appearance of moses & elijah mean?

  i have my own opinion which i will post later but i was wondering what others thought about it?

  lilly

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  Interesting older topic, one that many current JW's would not think of but it is a deep subject. Life after death, being able to "bring" up two faithful men who died thousands of years previously, to be and speak with Jesus!

  Third heaven? Nothing like that is mentioned in WT studies today, no questions allowed to be asked anymore, just answer the question as noted in a paragraph- where is thinking going on?

  1) three men speaking of things either going to happen to Jesus, as Leolai said so eloquently -- his death.

  2) Why bring them "back" to discuss what was already prophesied in scripture?

  3) Three men witnessed the "vision" as it was called- you only need two witnesses for anything in bible

  4) Did this have anything to do with the law and the prophets- which changed with Jesus? Why would that be an issue that would have to be "seen" by the three watching from a distance- since they asked Jesus to build three tents?

  5) And if, as the last comment says- Life after death

  Side note- where are you Leolai? Always loved your insights and comments.
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  The time my Jehovah's Witness mom ripped my rock band photos and poster

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in 1977 ( i was 18 years old), i attended a led zeppelin concert at the chicago stadium.

  sat in the 10th.

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  I remember buying aa book for my child and ripping out the pages dealing with dinosaurs and later not allowing him certain music, which of course, was not a problem for the adults, CCR, EAGLES, MJ, hippie drug era and of course disco.... Donna Summer, Bee Gees Ohh the good times!!
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  " Millions Now Living Will Never Die" Ray Franz Thoughts from " Crisis of C "

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  of course this has been hashed and re-hashed as all of you know the feb. 15th wt is re-directing jw's to read the title of rutherford's talk as " millions now living may never die.

  " however in reading crisis of conscience a second time - i found it interesting to see what ray franz said about this quote.. remember he wrote this book in 1983 , so keep it in mind when reading his quotes about this " millions " quote.

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  I do IT was a shock to some in the hall, today's living who knew and studied that article must think they were brainwashed