When 1975 came and went, that is when we starting looking for a full time, pensioned company to work for. We found them but so many suffered after that time. But we started with the buy in of company shares, pension account, etc. got a little smarter. SInce then, no complaints just comfortable, no wasting of monies since then.
truthlover123
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Retirement
by jehovaxx inthe difference is now blatantly obvious, older ones who went against direction of the gb and planned for retirement have relatively more comfortable lives.. those who trusted and followed gb direction never got further education or training, pioneered or spent most of their lives knocking on doors for free, making just enough to get by in a part time job.. if you followed direction from the gb then you thought the end was just around the corner so no need to plan for retirement.. now these ones have indeed got old which they were given the impression they never would.
they are a burden on others.
the state has to pay for them in their old age.
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Jehovah's Witnesses are suing the Dutch state for discrimination
by jochie injehovah's witnesses believe it is unfair that the state only investigated their handling of abuse cases, and not other religious organizations.jehovah's witnesses have sued the dutch state for discrimination, the national government told trouw.
the reason: only their handling of sexual abuse has been scrutinized by the government, while other religious groups remained unaffected.
they find the fact that only they were the 'target' unfounded and therefore discriminatory.. the fact that a religious organization is suing the state is 'fairly unique', says special professor of law and religion paul van sasse van ijsselt.
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are they crazy? I always had to laugh when they pointed the finger at religions re CA issues, stating they are of satans world. Now it is happening to them more and more and they are going to try to win this case to push it in the face of every JW how clean they are. Hopefully the Dutch government is ready with files up the ying yang to put them in their place. When they are found guilty, what part of satans world are they?
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The "Problem" With Zoom
by XBEHERE inhere is the org's problem with zoom, attending this way does not fit with their "scriptural definition" of a christian gathering.
at least not anymore, one thing my pimi wife is fine with is attending on zoom occasionally, even 2-3 times a month or so.. if some of you recall, during covid there were break out rooms setup for people to stay on and associate.
many would also stay in the main meeting and talk over each other trying to say hello, etc.
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Normally 30-+ on zoom/phones. On a recent shepherding call, we were asked when we may be going back to the hall.
I said, I would not be. Many a time prior to covid, we would sit in the hall and honestly, there was always someone who would be sick with a terrible cold or flu sitting nearby. Something I would never bring to the hall with elderly and autoimmune people. Within two days, one of us would be sick for several days or weeks, depending. But never a call to see how we were doing when we missed x number of meetings because of it. My reason for not going back is due mainly to the fact that no matter what they are carrying, they seem to need to be at the meetings passing their illness on to someone else- especially now that covid has caused so much misery and continues to do so with the three new variants on board now. I asked if he would come to the house to care for us should we get covid.... crickets.... never heard that question again.
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Did Geoffrey Jackson lie under oath at the ARC?
by Vanderhoven7 ini understand he intimated that the faithful slave was not the only spokesman for jehovah god.
he also intimated that corporal punishment was not advocated by the wts.
we're these lies or deception or did they represent the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?.
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When anyone says-" it seems it would be presumptuous"- isn't that a hard statement to lead people to question those two little words and that, no- you have doubts in making that wording about being the only religion to help people get into the new system? That other beliefs may also be able to do so as well? 'Seems' to who? Just because he mentioned the slave later on, his statement would cause any thinking follower to have doubts. It did me. He didn't say, yes we have the true religion- he squirreled around the question. His answer should have been questioned further. Stewart was great, no doubt about it, but these GB can lie til the cows come home. He (Jackson) changed the subject like you would change a kids mind.
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Have Kingdom Halls ever been used as evacuation centres?
by no-zombie inwhile our attentions has been drawn many times to kingdom halls being used as distribution centres (often distributing government supplied relief goods), during a local disaster.
i can't remember reading or hearing of, kingdom halls being opened to house displaced witnesses during these times.. can any one else?.
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With the old sayings of" when great tribulation happens, come to the hall for further instructions" - well, they are selling off the halls, no brick and mortar buildings will likely be a secure site, no cell phone service, no support- therefore, if the 09 leave, and all the trials are going on, the other old saying "kiss your a... goodbye", would definitely apply.
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Manners and Respectfulness
by IWant2Know ini would like to know if there are any ex's or formers who still appreciate good manners and respectfulness?
but i hope this question isn't offensive to this forum.
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care that is
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Manners and Respectfulness
by IWant2Know ini would like to know if there are any ex's or formers who still appreciate good manners and respectfulness?
but i hope this question isn't offensive to this forum.
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truthlover123
Always a thanks, have a great day, do you need a hand reaching that? If you car about people, you try to encourage
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Is There Going to be Money in the New System?
by NotFormer inif not, what's in it for the gb?.
but seriously, how is it supposed to work?
pictures of jws in paradise show them raising crops, wearing clothes and building houses.
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Naked? If one was not to wear underpants when serving at the temple, I doubt that very much.
Even if there was 1000 years of mental and physical cleansing of our gene/dna/desires, I'm sure the gawking would still take place- very impolite and personal Give me a fig leaf or three
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Governing body
by moley inare the governing body really in charge or are they just a figurehead with the real power being behind the curtain .
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I believe the legal department and investment (financial dept) are in charge. GB2 is just a figurehead.
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Will the GB Eventually "observe" Tithing?
by Sea Breeze infound this on fb from the recent losch talk.
time for a new business model?.
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I have mentioned, several times, they don't have to use the word 'tithing". They already have a buzz word for that- "donation". They advise the congregation they are going to read a letter from the society. That letter stipulates amounts to be given per publisher( suggestions of course)- the elders in their wisdom set the amount, another meeting, explanation how dire it is to get the good news out there with Jehovahs Blessing( guilt) then its a raise hands who agrees with the "suggestion"- and of course, no one wants to stand out as a negative, so its passed with a majority vote. This happens regularly and I am so pissed that- who was it that said- "if the money stops, its time to stop preaching"? Well, the money is stopping, what do they say now? The people are so mind controlled, sheep is the best way to describe their attitudes. Get in line, do what I say, if you don't, you are an apostate or spiritually sick, or not studying the repetitive WT materials enough or holy spirit has left the building. Now they are selling memberships- each publisher has to pay every month $15.00 a head- that's forever, every 30 days, until they want more. So a member- no -they don't use that specific word anymore. Your a publisher or someone in the congregation, but if you are going in service, you pay! and to put icing on the cake, receive Jehovahs blessing again. They haven't figured out Jehovah does not need money. Yet the cry for "unrighteous riches" and refuse to say what they are doing for it... One hall in Nigeria maybe? or Iqualiuit?