No biggie there- just 2 GB - young 50's. Extension to the date of GT.
truthlover123
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October Elder's Letter Delayed- Big Announcement at Annual Meeting
by Newly Enlightened inhttps://youtu.be/93h5zpbil6k?si=ffatfxjuxmj_na9i.
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Annual Meeting live updates
by ukpimo ini have obtained the live link for the annual meeting tomorrow:.
annual meeting live link.
the meeting will begin at 9:45am eastern time, for those of us in the uk, that will be 2:45pm.
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truthlover123
For the life of me, I kept records way back when we were told as the anointed numbers decreased, the GT was imminent. We lived by that statement, yet watched as numbers grew, thinking "oh well" there must be a reason. The reason they gave was that some were disloyal and had to be replaced. The main thing it did was give folks hope that the system was soooo close. Now Jackson makes jokes, and the audience laughs. What fools they made of us who gave it all for these jerks.
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What evidence is there for a biblical jesus?
by Touchofgrey inis there any independently verified evidence that a miracle worker called jesus existed and did the things that the bible said he did?.
the four gospels were written by unknown authors many decades after the so called events, so can't be considered as eyewitness accounts.
i think that there may have been a apocalyptic preacher who was executed by the romans and the story evolved from their.
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truthlover123
We need more Garth Brooks! No more politics, just music
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What evidence is there for a biblical jesus?
by Touchofgrey inis there any independently verified evidence that a miracle worker called jesus existed and did the things that the bible said he did?.
the four gospels were written by unknown authors many decades after the so called events, so can't be considered as eyewitness accounts.
i think that there may have been a apocalyptic preacher who was executed by the romans and the story evolved from their.
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truthlover123
Josephus (Jewish historian), Tacitus (Roman historian), Pliny the Younger (Roman politician), Phlegon (freed slave who wrote histories), Lucian (Greek satirist), Celsus (Roman philosopher), Mara Bar Serapion (prisoner awaiting execution), Suetonius, and Thallus.
We have other sources too which come after the first 150 years of his death, making his existence so well attested that it cannot be denied.
James F. Mcgrath is an Associate Professor of Religion and Clarence L. Goodwin Chair of New Testament Language and Literature at Butler University. As he says on his blog in response to the abundance of sources:
“To suggest that these various authors and sources independently invented a historical Jesus, or that despite their divergent views they conspired together to do so, is (to put it charitably) less plausible than the explanation of this state of affairs accepted by all scholars and historians teaching at accredited institutions.”
· Mendell also notes that Tacitus was concerned for maintaining his integrity as a historian.
In the Annals, the work with the paragraph on Jesus, Mendell cites 30 instances where Tacitus uses specific phrases “to substantiate a statement or to present a statement for which he does not care to vouch” [ibid., 205].Mendell also notes that “In Books 11-16 of the Annals (the Jesus cite is in 15) Tacitus “concerns himself with the evidence and source references to a greater extent than in the earlier books.” He relies on other historians, a bronze inscription (11.14), reports or memoirs (15.16), personal testimonies (15.73), and physical evidence (15.42).
There are indications of searches for first-hand (15.41) and written (12.67, 13.17) evidence [Mende.Tac, 207]. Thus, the cite on Jesus comes in the middle of one of Tacitus’ most carefully-documented works. reporting a conspiracy of Piso to assassinate Nero, Tacitus acknowledges the difficulty of accurate knowledge of such conspiracies, indicates where his knowledge is uncertain, and does not use even one of Pliny’s quotes as positive evidence because he considers it to be “wholly absurd” (15.53) [ibid, 209].n short, Tacitus was a very careful historian – he would certainly not trust a source that he held in such disdain as he did Christians, and he would carefully check material that came to him, even from his friends.nally, let us add that there was no need for Tacitus to get his information from Pliny – he had plenty of Christians in his own province of Asia where he was governor, if not more Christians than Pliny, and he was probably aware of Trajan’s edict concerning Christians, which we will discuss below.
Tacitus had no motive to investigate his information on Christ. He may have accepted information from Christians uncritically.
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The Date for the Memorial is WRONG this year!
by Kelley959 inan interesting video was on youtube with a person claiming that the memorial date for 2024 was wrong.
so i consulted three different jewish calendars online and sure enough, he appears to be right.
i went back to 2014 and forward to 2027. they have the future dates listed.
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truthlover123
Guess the holy spirit isn't talking anymore
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People who work free for the cult for many years
by ThomasDam21 innew to the forum.
i have a question i did not get any feed back for on another site.
what to these people who gave decades working for free in bethel when they are 60 plus years old.
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truthlover123
In Canada, IF they ever worked and paid into CPP they can start to get this at age 60 and if a disability can get the disability pension. At age 65 they get an old age pension - everyone.
What has been going on in "bethel" is a sorry, we don not need you anymore (medical issues, age, cutting costs) with the volunteers (for years) who have signed a poverty clause when they volunteered, not to expect any funds when they leave, after putting thousands of hours working in a closed environment.
In the big purge back about 12 years ago 2200 were put out to pasture, with only the job experience they had acquired while at bethel. Yes, some received courses, so they would be ok, but mostly had to go back to congregations without furniture, apartment, medical, or a job, etc. At that point, the congregations who would be struggling too, had another issue to contend with. This cleansing takes place regularly when they can get new, strong blood in
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Listen obey and get vaxed
by JohnR1975 inthe truth is most active jws would probably agree that most of the teachings are not right, the new thing is that we just don’t know.. the governing body now say they get things wrong and make mistakes as they are not inspired and not infallible.
yet they are still to be trusted no matter what?.
they are not trusted.
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truthlover123
Sorry, they did not mention anything about getting the vax just a reminder to stay home if sick. I guess getting it is up to the individual now.
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A Jehovah's Witness family's excellent Letter of Resignation trending on exjw Reddit today
by Balaamsass2 ini got an email notice today on this excellent letter of resignation from a german family that is trending on reddit.
i thought i would share it here if anyone is so inclined to write one.
for those with pimi jw family and jw business connections, it may not be wise to share such a letter, but i imagine it must be very freeing to send such a letter.
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"Not called by the name Jehovahs Witnesses" - true Jesus said "you are my witnesses". Is that why the push towards Jesus at the 3 day and new song? As the governments recognize "Christian" religions, they do not see JW's as that, so as becoming mainstream with slacks and beards, now highlighting Jesus could be another ploy to overcome some kind of inspection.
This is a good letter. I agree with all points.
The org is switching conventions, changing congregations who have to get there as a way to avoid or confuse the pubs as to the number in attendance anymore. Cant see old friends, cant travel with the regular group or families. And do not attend any other conventions, go to where assigned! Obey, obey
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Listen obey and get vaxed
by JohnR1975 inthe truth is most active jws would probably agree that most of the teachings are not right, the new thing is that we just don’t know.. the governing body now say they get things wrong and make mistakes as they are not inspired and not infallible.
yet they are still to be trusted no matter what?.
they are not trusted.
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truthlover123
Still haven't been back to the hall since covid. I like a distance. However, a letter was read last week regarding MPOX, the monkey pox- they did not advise getting the vaccine but if sick stay home.
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Do you recognize this?
by Gorb inthinking sometimes about my youth days and the stories my grandfather told me about our jw congregation.
do you recognize that your congregation was full of somehowe strange folks, very low educated, poor and simple?.
the po was an elder with some distance, with some personality acting intelligent and following the rules strict.. there was always a kind of scandal.
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truthlover123
Yes, exactly. Remember when no colored shirts and no sports jackets if you wanted to give a talk. Congregation made up of self employed, farmers, window washers, poorly educated brothers and sisters - I say this because in our province only one to three overseers to take care of many -well travelled congregations- all small, all a good distance from each other. Those who pioneered stayed in brothers homes. No elders at that time until 1971-72. That was in the country -and in cities, mainly employed with those already set up in businesses. Talk about the end of the system started about 1975 around 1973-74 with magazines and field ministry updates plus being mentioned at assemblies-off the platform. Brothers sold homes, furniture, businesses- membership increased dramatically as those out came back in along with interested ones. So many issues for the elders at that time - adultery, secular divorce, child abuse, sexual morays- calls at 3 am cause a brother was drunk.... it was handled, went away and back on track. this was just one congregation. After 1975, membership started to drop again and the famous anointed number was talked about as "when you see the last of the anointed, you know the end is come"-- back then it was about 6-7,000 anointed- now over 22,000.
