Posts by turtleturtle

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Total Donations

by turtleturtle in

jw
friends

was just calculating how much $ i had given to the local cong & wt over the period of about 10 years.

28,000 us baby!

ouchie!

turtleturtle

Was just calculating how much $ I had given to the local cong & WT over the period of about 10 years. 28,000 US baby! ouchie! stopped about 2 years ago.

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Obsessive Personality Disorder

by turtleturtle in

obsessive personality disorder.

dsmthe diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders fourth edition, (dsm iv-tr = 301.4), a widely used manual for diagnosing mental disorders, defines obsessivecompulsive personality disorder (in axis ii cluster c) as:[11].

a pervasive pattern of preoccupation with orderliness, perfectionism, and mental and interpersonal control, at the expense of flexibility, openness, and efficiency, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by four (or more) of the following:.

turtleturtle

Obsessive Personality Disorder

DSM

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders fourth edition, (DSM IV-TR = 301.4), a widely used manual for diagnosing mental disorders, defines obsessive–compulsive personality disorder (in Axis II Cluster C) as: [ 11 ]

A pervasive pattern of preoccupation with orderliness, perfectionism, and mental and interpersonal control, at the expense of flexibility, openness, and efficiency, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by four (or more) of the following:

is preoccupied with details, rules, lists, order, organization, or schedules to the extent that the major point of the activity is lost
shows perfectionism that interferes with task completion (e.g., is unable to complete a project because his or her own overly strict standards are not met)
is excessively devoted to work and productivity to the exclusion of leisure activities and friendships (not accounted for by obvious economic necessity)
is overconscientious, scrupulous, and inflexible about matters of morality, ethics, or values (not accounted for by cultural or religious identification)
is unable to discard worn-out or worthless objects even when they have no sentimental value
is reluctant to delegate tasks or to work with others unless they submit to exactly his or her way of doing things
adopts a miserly spending style toward both self and others; money is viewed as something to be hoarded for future catastrophes
shows rigidity and stubbornness

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Anonymous Email

by turtleturtle in

i am thinking of sending an anonymous email to some jdubs i know (im in).

i want to only pub a number of references (example: w62 8/1 p. 0).. .

what do you think would be most effective..

turtleturtle

I am thinking of sending an anonymous email to some jdubs i know (IM in). I want to only pub a number of references (example: w62 8/1 p. 0).

What do you think would be most effective.

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FBI & Clergy Response

by turtleturtle in

2 questions:.

1) anyone know if the wt or local congs got involved in this:.

http://www.ksla.com/global/story.asp?s=6937987.

turtleturtle

I remember, a little over a year ago, when there was an announcement from the platform (I believe it was a letter from the branch), that said "do what governments tell you in times of crisis".

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FBI & Clergy Response

by turtleturtle in

2 questions:.

1) anyone know if the wt or local congs got involved in this:.

http://www.ksla.com/global/story.asp?s=6937987.

turtleturtle

2 questions:

1) Anyone know if the WT or local congs got involved in this:

http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?S=6937987

2) A JW mentioned how the FBI infiltrated the congs way back when, but when the operatives were found out, they were DF'd. Can I have the reference for this (if any)?

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Is there a special meeting at Brooklyn being held?

by Quarterback in

i heard that no canadian branch brothers are assigned any convention talks this week.

some local brothers are handling these.

i'm not too sure of my sources.

turtleturtle

LOL Bilderberg. They went public this past week, even though for years they were in secrecy and people thought the whole group didn't even exist. Ya, I could see the GB there.

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6-9-2013 WT Study

by turtleturtle in

so i learned something by actually reading my bible and looking up the cross-references.. 6-9-2013 wt study stated.

we build hope in jehovahs saving.

acts by studying his word.

turtleturtle

Sorry for formatting problems.

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6-9-2013 WT Study

by turtleturtle in

so i learned something by actually reading my bible and looking up the cross-references.. 6-9-2013 wt study stated.

we build hope in jehovahs saving.

acts by studying his word.

turtleturtle

So I learned something by actually READING my Bible and looking up the cross-references.

6-9-2013 WT Study stated

We build hope in Jehovah’s saving
acts by studying his Word. Strong hope
enables us to resist apostates and their
gangrenous “empty speeches.” (2 Tim. 2:
16-19) Our hope will also strengthen us
tosaynotothosewhowouldleadusinto
conduct condemned by Jehovah.

(2Timothy2:16-19) 16 But shun empty speeches that violate what is holy; for they will advance to more and more ungodliness, 17 and their word will spread like gangrene. Hy·me·nae

′ us and Phi·le ′ tus are of that number. 18 These very [men] have deviated from the truth, saying that the resurrection has already occurred; and they are subverting the faith of some. 19 For all that, the solid foundation of God stays standing, having this seal: “Jehovah knows those who belong to him,” and: “Let everyone naming the name of Jehovah renounce unrighteousness.”

The cross reference in the NWT for verse 18 is:

Corinthians15:12-14)12 Now if Christ is being preached that he has been raised up from the dead, how is it some among YOU say there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 If, indeed, there is no resurrection of the dead, neither has Christ been raised up. 14 But if Christ has not been raised up, our preaching is certainly in vain, and our faith is in vain. . .

My point is, the WT uses the scripture in 2 Tim. to show that apostates (stubbornly holding to and spreading teachings different than the WT) are dangerous. What they don't tell us is that, in the first century, the "apostates" were teaching that Christ was never raised from the dead! That is a pretty big deal in Christianity. But, the WT would have us think that ANY "current truth" that is disagreed with and spread against is apostasy. Really? They are putting denying Christ was resurected with not believing 1914 was anything of significance!

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i would love to debate

by new hope and happiness in

i would love to be able to debate some of the issues on this site.. this is the first site i have debated on.. i would like to debate with credibility.. i think i debate on only what i feel secure about, and that is a good start.

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but on this thread i would appreciate some tips on how to constrctively debate on a thread..

turtleturtle

+1 on learning logical fallacies and NOT using them. The WT is famous for using fallacies.

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Bibles out of stock

by turtleturtle in

so i txt my in law who works at the printing facility in the us regarding why there were no bibles in so many congregations.

they never answered for either text.

i would say someting is going on with the nwt..

turtleturtle

So I txt my in law who works at the printing facility in the US regarding why there were no Bibles in so many congregations. They never answered for either text. I would say someting is going on with the NWT.